15 anonym_uO7eEzhrDxsi Members 687 posts Report post #1 Posted October 24, 2016 Any of you guys still sailing the Koenig? I really enjoy that ship but suffer with the current MM and fighting off T7s. Any tips would be appreciated. I've been trying to stay with a group and watching my angle. anything else I can be doing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 [SUR-2] Gunar_Konrad [SUR-2] Members 201 posts 9,159 battles Report post #2 Posted October 24, 2016 Use your good accuracy (for a german bb) and take out the cruisers first, use islands wise to get more survival vs bb7. Don't sail alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
110 Drago25x Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 269 posts 8,297 battles Report post #3 Posted October 24, 2016 That is most of the advice I would have. The only other thing is to make sure to shoot broadside targets first. With the higher tier ships, will be that much harder to get damage on angled ships. You can still do well in T7 games. Just yesterday i was 2nd in xp on my team with a victory in a T7 game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
370 MexicanPanda Beta Testers 1,529 posts 1,148 battles Report post #4 Posted October 24, 2016 Don't sail broadside, best advice that can be given for any ship. Don't be afraid to load HE if the only target you have is an angled BB and shoot him in the superstructure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
646 [KMS] Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,045 posts Report post #5 Posted October 24, 2016 Remember the HE will only work for so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,322 [-K-] Special_Kay Beta Testers 5,660 posts 18,914 battles Report post #6 Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) I'm just wrapping it up. My general battleship MO serves me well in König: in top-tier matches, I mostly stick to AP and put myself as close to enemy battleships as is safe—König in particular allows for very sharp angles with all guns borne; In bottom-tier matches, I try to focus on survival. I'm not above firing HE on angled battleships. At long ranges against battleship artillery (even 11") it's always better to sit at 45° than to go mostly bow-on. This is because your citadel is very difficult to reach from the side, whereas your upper bow is overmatched by 11" artillery, and the forward citadel bulkhead is not difficult to find after that. That changes when you're in close, since flatter arcs mean that your lower bow must be penetrated for a bow-on citadel hit, and ain't nobody overpenning a heavily-angled 135mm belted bow. In fact, you're almost immune to AP damage when you're close-in and bow-on. Also, when you're up against enemy German battleships, aim for the upper belt with your AP (or the bottom half of the bow/stern if they're showing broadside and they're close enough). You're not going to score citadel hits, but you can jam a lot of AP into places where it won't leave the ship before it fuses. Edited October 24, 2016 by Special_Kay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
789 DerKrampus Members 1,853 posts 3,584 battles Report post #7 Posted October 24, 2016 Ive bid a fond farewell to the Konig, after lots of enjoyment. Others have summarized it well. Leverage your accuracy to target cruisers first, then broadside BBs. Don't be afraid to switch to HE to take on DDs or angling BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #8 Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Yep, don't be afraid to use more HE on BBs when uptiered. I find Expert Loader skill quite helpful. In Tier 7 matches, I tend to play it more as a "cruiser leader" than a BB. I kept Konig when I moved onto Bayern. Pretty sure it's a permanent keeper. Edited October 24, 2016 by Skpstr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,782 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,749 posts 15,649 battles Report post #9 Posted October 24, 2016 I love mine. If in a T7 game I try to go places BBs don't normally go, backing up the cruisers and destroyers. Don't be afraid to pull back and use a few heal charges. DO NOT BOW-ON REVERSE. Either plan your course so you have an island to turn around behind or take your chances turning around in open water. You are an XPpiniata trying to sail in reverse. Getting into secondary range is almost always a good idea if you can do so without getting focused or taking too much damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,324 [NERO] TTK_Aegis Members 3,630 posts Report post #10 Posted October 24, 2016 In a T7 game the most important thing to do is check the enemy team, note the T7 BBs, pay attention to where they show up on the map, and avoid their attention as much as possible while you target cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #11 Posted October 24, 2016 Konig is one of the most overpowered ships in the game.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [K-P-M] Montana_Prussian Members 1,616 posts 18,452 battles Report post #12 Posted October 24, 2016 I love my Koenig,very good ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [K-P-M] Montana_Prussian Members 1,616 posts 18,452 battles Report post #13 Posted October 24, 2016 In a T7 game the most important thing to do is check the enemy team, note the T7 BBs, pay attention to where they show up on the map, and avoid their attention as much as possible while you target cruisers. That exactly^^^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [BLNCE] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #14 Posted October 24, 2016 Look for me in game, happy to div Koenigs. She's a lovely ship, and very easy to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 [CDOGZ] SeanPwnery Beta Testers 702 posts 4,530 battles Report post #15 Posted October 24, 2016 Konig is one of those special cases where it punches very well above its weight - and when facing tiers well above yours, HE is still a very viable option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,322 [-K-] Special_Kay Beta Testers 5,660 posts 18,914 battles Report post #16 Posted October 24, 2016 Don't forget, Armor does not absorb HE damage. HE shells can penetrate or not penetrate armor (HE penetration does not count angles, range, etc - only armor thickness, and its value is 1/6 of caliber - 1/4 for German BBs). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #17 Posted October 24, 2016 Konig is one of the most overpowered ships in the game.... Followed by Kaiser lol.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
492 [STW] KTcraft Beta Testers 1,984 posts 10,616 battles Report post #18 Posted October 24, 2016 I recommend aiming for upper deck or superstructure on all BBs outside of 10km even same tier. There are of course exceptions like the kongo, but generally you are looking for reliable consistent penetration damage rather then citadels. Because of this, uptiering in the konig is relatively painless as superstructure and that deck armor improves very little, your damage output stays roughly the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 anonym_uO7eEzhrDxsi Members 687 posts Report post #19 Posted October 24, 2016 Awesome advice guys! You brought up a lot of things I had not even conceived of. What I had been trying to do was stay close to friendly uptier BBs and give them cruiser support and help fire on enemy BBs when they have them targeted. this had not worked out well for me, either due to the tactic itself or my inexperience. You guys have given me a lot more than i hoped for. Thanks! Prushn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,782 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,749 posts 15,649 battles Report post #20 Posted October 24, 2016 You are welcome. Hope you find something that works for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #21 Posted October 24, 2016 If you are going against higher tier BBs with the Konig sometimes you have to give up on Citadel hits and aim for normal penetrations in the upper belt or bow or other places. You can still do 8+k damage with a good salvo in those places and your shells wont break up against the lighter armor. Konig is one of the most overpowered ships in the game.... Not sure how PVE is relevant to this, since PVE is always mirror matchups. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #22 Posted October 24, 2016 Not sure how PVE is relevant to this, since PVE is always mirror matchups. What's wrong with a balanced environment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #23 Posted October 24, 2016 What's wrong with a balanced environment? I am just not sure what that has to do with the OPs question about dealing with being under tiered a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #24 Posted October 24, 2016 I am just not sure what that has to do with the OPs question about dealing with being under tiered a lot. Ah, I see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 Darth_Caedus_ Members 314 posts 2,035 battles Report post #25 Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) I always try to knock out cruisers first, even if they are two tiers above you can consistently pen them and blow the out of the water in a couple salvos top. I then work with my other ships (if possible) to focus down the higher tier BBs. Edited October 24, 2016 by Darth_Caedus_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
