Any low-tier RN cruisers worth keeping?

[BRailfanH]

Hello again, everyone.  I'm going up the RN cruiser line and I'm at the Danae right now.  I'd like to keep one low-tier CL while going up the tree w/ another captain whose skills are better-suited for higher tiers.  My question to you, therefore, is which of the low-tier British cruisers is the best to keep whilst going up the line.

[The_first_harbinger]

Judging by the amount of them getting blown up one shot, I would say no for everything below the Leander.

[Yank59]

Black Swan

[Ivlerlin]

Black Swan

 

^ Yes, simply for the fact it reminds me of Natalie Portman. 

[Kapitan_Wuff]

Black Swan is the only one I would think about keeping.

[BRailfanH]

Judging by the amount of them getting blown up one shot, I would say no for everything below the Leander.

 

Hmmm...... I may need to re-think my RN cruiser line strategy, then......

[Ivlerlin]

Outside of the Swan I'd probably opt for the Danae as everything you learn through the Caledon applies to her and she's got +1 Turret. 

 

Also T4 is the last place currently for ±1 MM. And for the foreseeable future T1-3 will probably be clogged with RN CLs. And there's a fair number of low-mid Teir keeps for the other Nations between 3-5 so there should always be variety at what you will shoot at and what's shooting at you. 

 

But I'm currently at the Danae so it might just be she feels good right now compared to the Caledon. I may enjoy Emerald more since she has Secondaries. But T5+ is more Mid-High for tier categories. 

[Czevak]

A big fat NO.

[ckupf]

Black Swan is probably the best t1. I'm only on the Danae but none of 2-4 feel like keepers. Got a Kraken in the Caledon, but I still hated it.

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Hello again, everyone.  I'm going up the RN cruiser line and I'm at the Danae right now.  I'd like to keep one low-tier CL while going up the tree w/ another captain whose skills are better-suited for higher tiers.  My question to you, therefore, is which of the low-tier British cruisers is the best to keep whilst going up the line.

 

From what I've experienced for Tier I-V, and from looking at "yesterday" stats on Warships Today, I would not keep any of the low tier ones.

[SweetRollThief]

Emerald is far and away the worst ship I have ever used in this game. Not only are they not keepers, I would strongly suggest free xp past as many of the low tier RN cruisers as you can. 

[Lance53]

It all depend on how much of a masochist you are.  If you really enjoy pain and torture a lot, then keep the entire line.

 

 

[Ivlerlin]

It all depend on how much of a masochist you are.  If you really enjoy pain and torture a lot, then keep the entire line.

 

 

 

I guess the Prison School memes are to NSFW to risk linking?

 

I'm still of the impression once the MM and RN influx settles down some of the RN CL's won't feel as painful. Remember 'everyone' can only shoot AP at you right now. So the slightest Citadel opportunity against you will hurt every time. 

[Aduial]

 

^ Yes, simply for the fact it reminds me of Natalie Portman. 

 

Uh, what?

Anyways, to me, Weymouth looks like a solid ship. 

[Ivlerlin]

 

Uh, what?

Anyways, to me, Weymouth looks like a solid ship. 

 

really? You've never seen the movie Black Swan with Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis?

[Aduial]

 

really? You've never seen the movie Black Swan with Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis?

 

Oh THAT'S what you were talking about. I haven't seen it, but i've heard of it. 

[Seraphil]

Black Swan for citadel farming shenanigans.

 

Weymouth is ****.

 

Caledon I'm still deciding on.

[Ivlerlin]

 

Oh THAT'S what you were talking about. I haven't seen it, but i've heard of it. 

 

it's honestly caused me to silently giggle to myself ever since finding out what the RN T1 was named... and thankful for the decision they made to pick her. 

 

It's hard not to love the Ship simply for namesake if you've grown up through the prequel era regardless if the OT was hands down the better trilogy. 

Edit: still reserving judgement on the ST (sequel trilogy) since it's not yet completed. 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

 

I guess the Prison School memes are to NSFW to risk linking?

 

I'm still of the impression once the MM and RN influx settles down some of the RN CL's won't feel as painful. Remember 'everyone' can only shoot AP at you right now. So the slightest Citadel opportunity against you will hurt every time. 

 

You don't need AP to citadel them.  The current stock of ships will own them.  Even low tier DDs with 127mm, 130mm spamming HE will citadel them.  The BBs are out in force right now, they're looking to farm these poor CLs.  Of significant danger, IMO, are:

Tier IV Kaiser - Lighter caliber guns for a BB but decent dispersion.

Tier IV Ishizuchi - Unlike Myogi who has 6 guns, Ishizuchi has way more.  She may not have good AP, she may not be the most accurate, but she has the sheer amount of guns to land multiple hits on anyone.  She can citadel these poor ships with HE and she has very high 32% fire chance.  So not only can she potentially blow a RN CL out of the water, she can Citadel them, or set them ablaze, or Citadel them AND set them ablaze.

Tier V Konig - Same with Kaiser but in a Main Battery Build, her salvos are very tight, almost like Cruisers at times, this is terrifying for Cruisers.

Tier V New York / Texas - Two words:  Target Saturation.

Tier V Kongo-class - Good dispersion and the speed that running away from them isn't easy like against a USN Standard BB.

Tier VI Fuso / New Mexico - Lots of guns?  Two words:  Target Saturation.

Tier VI Arizona - Lots of guns?  Two words:  Target Saturation.  With the added bonus that Arizona has good dispersion and likes to reward high hit count salvos at times.

Tier VII Colorado / Nagato - Good dispersion

Tier VII Gneisenau / Scharnhorst - LOL!  Not only do they have the guns to take out the CLs, but they have the scary speed.  Scharnhorst in particular has the rifle count and reload time to be very scary for a Cruiser.

 

So, pretty much every BB that these low tier RN CLs can expect to face will easily delete them.  Add the fact that even the most minute of angling towards or away from them completely negates their ability for the RN CL to damage them.  The moment that is done, it's nothing but Bounces and Non-Pens.

 

And this post of mine is so far left out the other Cruisers and Destroyers that will have their way with them.  Gnevny, Ognevoi, Kiev, Leningrad, Blyskawica, Clemson, Kirov, Molotov, etc.  I was using Tier III Bogatyr spamming only 130mm HE and owning and citadeling these ships.  Tier V Furutaka can go bow on against them and be immune to their AP (no HE, so you can't do anything to her bow on), give them the double F-U, and have 2/3 of their 203mm guns to punch through an RN CL at any angle.

[BRailfanH]

Uh, okay...... so maybe I should just not bother with the remaining RN cruisers, then, and focus on other ship lines?  The Minotaur sounds like fun, but if it's anything like the US cruiser line and the grind to the Des Moines, I probably shouldn't pursue it and instead finish out the IJN/KM Cruiser lines instead.....

 

But if I do, it sounds like the Leander would be the lowest-tier keeper.

[BigJohnsonLogan]

Hello again, everyone.  I'm going up the RN cruiser line and I'm at the Danae right now.  I'd like to keep one low-tier CL while going up the tree w/ another captain whose skills are better-suited for higher tiers.  My question to you, therefore, is which of the low-tier British cruisers is the best to keep whilst going up the line.

 

The British Cruiser line is pure trash until Tier 6, then it's luke warm dog crap ... US CL are better IMHO.

[GreatBigAbyss]

Oookay, folks.  Enough with the panic frenzy.  British CL's are NOT as bad as everyone is making them out to be. Anybody who says otherwise just doesn't know how to play an agile, high DPM cruiser.

 

Here are a few tips:

Once you get the Emerald, you have smoke.  USE it.  Even better, take the premium smoke consumable.  You'll only have 85 seconds to run and dodge from the time your first smoke ends until your next smoke is available again.

 

Oh, and before deploying smoke, go full reverse.  Wait until your speed has dropped to 12-15 kts, then pop your smoke. Any faster and you'll sail right through.   12-15 kts is the fastest you want to be going, and remember have your engines in full reverse until you've stopped.  If DD's are in the area, pop you hydro to give you advance notice of torpedo's incoming. 

 

When you're not sitting in smoke, always be maneuvering.  You never ever want to sail predictably in these cruisers.  It also helps to never be the closest ship to the enemy.  Always try to have at least one other detected ship between yourself and the reds.

 

Target selection:  This is especially important with the AP.  Go for ships that are as broadside as possible.

 

It took me a while to get used to these ships, but by the time I got the Danae, I had the knack for their gun arcs and she travel times.  

 

The Emerald.is especially fun because she is the first to get smoke, which helps a lot in the strategy department.  Carrying games is not impossible with these ships.

 

[DisposableHero28]

Leander is a good ship, as is the Fiji.  Life gets harder with the Edinburgh - as its a Fiji with more tricks up its sleeve.  They are elegant ships, that need some thought.  Treat them like a destroyer leader.  

[SweetRollThief]

 

You don't need AP to citadel them.  The current stock of ships will own them.  Even low tier DDs with 127mm, 130mm spamming HE will citadel them.  The BBs are out in force right now, they're looking to farm these poor CLs.  Of significant danger, IMO, are:

Tier IV Kaiser - Lighter caliber guns for a BB but decent dispersion.

Tier IV Ishizuchi - Unlike Myogi who has 6 guns, Ishizuchi has way more.  She may not have good AP, she may not be the most accurate, but she has the sheer amount of guns to land multiple hits on anyone.  She can citadel these poor ships with HE and she has very high 32% fire chance.  So not only can she potentially blow a RN CL out of the water, she can Citadel them, or set them ablaze, or Citadel them AND set them ablaze.

Tier V Konig - Same with Kaiser but in a Main Battery Build, her salvos are very tight, almost like Cruisers at times, this is terrifying for Cruisers.

Tier V New York / Texas - Two words:  Target Saturation.

Tier V Kongo-class - Good dispersion and the speed that running away from them isn't easy like against a USN Standard BB.

Tier VI Fuso / New Mexico - Lots of guns?  Two words:  Target Saturation.

Tier VI Arizona - Lots of guns?  Two words:  Target Saturation.  With the added bonus that Arizona has good dispersion and likes to reward high hit count salvos at times.

Tier VII Colorado / Nagato - Good dispersion

Tier VII Gneisenau / Scharnhorst - LOL!  Not only do they have the guns to take out the CLs, but they have the scary speed.  Scharnhorst in particular has the rifle count and reload time to be very scary for a Cruiser.

 

So, pretty much every BB that these low tier RN CLs can expect to face will easily delete them.  Add the fact that even the most minute of angling towards or away from them completely negates their ability for the RN CL to damage them.  The moment that is done, it's nothing but Bounces and Non-Pens.

 

And this post of mine is so far left out the other Cruisers and Destroyers that will have their way with them.  Gnevny, Ognevoi, Kiev, Leningrad, Blyskawica, Clemson, Kirov, Molotov, etc.  I was using Tier III Bogatyr spamming only 130mm HE and owning and citadeling these ships.  Tier V Furutaka can go bow on against them and be immune to their AP (no HE, so you can't do anything to her bow on), give them the double F-U, and have 2/3 of their 203mm guns to punch through an RN CL at any angle.

I took 24,000 damage from 6 bomb hits in my emerald yesterday. The first bomb drop nearly one shotted me, so you might need to add bombers to the list of things that citadel RN cruisers. 

[inktomi19d]

Uh, okay...... so maybe I should just not bother with the remaining RN cruisers, then, and focus on other ship lines?  The Minotaur sounds like fun, but if it's anything like the US cruiser line and the grind to the Des Moines, I probably shouldn't pursue it and instead finish out the IJN/KM Cruiser lines instead.....

 

But if I do, it sounds like the Leander would be the lowest-tier keeper.

 

Nah, they get really good at tier 6.

 

Of the lower tiers, I'd say the Emerald is the most clubberly once you know how to use her. The skill floor is just insane, and it does not help that so many people try to say that you are doing something wrong if you do badly with it -- you can play well and the Emerald will still not work for you. You've got to be more than 'good' with it to make it work, but once it works it also has a very high skill ceiling. It's floor is set above the ceiling on most ships.