351 Citrusss Members 1,150 posts 9,100 battles Report post #1 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Since no one reads last posts in the older threads I will say it here as well: RN Cruisers are even worse than anticipated! Jeez... I am trying to enjoy the game as a whole but they are sooooooooo bad, I am keeping on free-XP every ship. So far got to Leander and ran out of FreeXP so I guess I will be stuck there for long. A. Any enemy cruiser can one-salvo delete RN CL, especially up close. Angling is irrelevant defense maneuver to everything but other poor sod who is running RN CL. While once any ship angles all shells just bounce. B. If enemy BB looks in your general direction you are dead. Again, no matter how well you angle. C. Having submerged citadel doesn't help any freaking bit! D. You can't shoot and hit anything further than 100 meters away. [yes, this is exaggeration] E. You have to come to the stop to pop the smoke. Stop = death F. Everyone laughs at you. Even Pensacola drivers. G. Destroyers are still scared when they see you nearby but that's until DD drivers will realize these ships can't do a thing, even with these fancy "short fuse AP" H. Edinburgh has no place in Ranked as it has to chose between the radar or smoke. And none of these have good performance. All and all, WG please remove RN CL, re-work, test and re-introduce to the game. Right now it is a disaster. Feels like I am back to Krasny Krym all over again... Original post: This is glorious! 1. Give them smoke but no HE shells! And it's all 152 mm 2. Raise their citadels so battleships won't be overpenetrating them 3. Don't give them armor so even destroyers have a good chance on killing them Edited October 21, 2016 by Citrusss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #2 Posted October 18, 2016 152mm Don't go full broadside Don't go full broadside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
351 Citrusss Members 1,150 posts 9,100 battles Report post #3 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) 152mm Don't go full broadside Don't go full broadside yeah. okay. like citadels through the bow never happened to any cruiser before (fixed to 152, thanks) Edited October 18, 2016 by Citrusss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
819 [WOLFG] 4bRbyHSSzZ6pk Members 4,300 posts Report post #4 Posted October 18, 2016 People will find a way to use them properly, but they do seem to have a higher skill floor than the average ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #5 Posted October 18, 2016 yeah. okay. like citadels through the bow never happened to any cruiser before (fixed to 152, thanks) That's all cruisers though. 406mm+ doesn't care, because cruiser bow armor stops at 25mm. 27mm for Baltimore and DM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
837 Fletcher7_1944 Members 4,680 posts Report post #6 Posted October 18, 2016 Yeah- I think I'll pass. We already have 2 LOLfragile cruiser lines as it is- RU and German. The odd quirks they gave them: no HE, and torpedo tubes that fire individually don't sound particularly exciting, either. OTOH- I'm grinding German BB's right now, so an entire line of new squishy cruisers should help me earn more containers! ( and grind faster) The influx of cruisers should hopefully displace some of the BB's we're seeing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
351 Citrusss Members 1,150 posts 9,100 battles Report post #7 Posted October 18, 2016 People will find a way to use them properly, but they do seem to have a higher skill floor than the average ship who cares? let these fish-n-chips lovers suffer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
819 [WOLFG] 4bRbyHSSzZ6pk Members 4,300 posts Report post #8 Posted October 18, 2016 who cares? let these fish-n-chips lovers suffer! I dunno about who cares, but looking at their strengths I still wouldn't want to see three of them on a div together coming to my general direction... though that applies for almost every high tier ship in the game now that I think about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
406 [WOLFD] AXELGREASE Members 992 posts 7,397 battles Report post #9 Posted October 18, 2016 British cruisers will just as bad as German light cruisers. WG has no idea how balance a game so every class and tier has a real chance of being an effective team contributor. Yes German CL can have good games, but how many bad games happen between every good game. It is just sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,022 Gabriel_LXIX Members 2,518 posts Report post #10 Posted October 18, 2016 Interesting that half the forum seems to think they will be trash, the other half OP Guess we shall see, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [BANG_] Arvanna_1 Beta Testers 493 posts 6,881 battles Report post #11 Posted October 18, 2016 What the heck are you talking about? I just watched some vids on the RN ships and they have their citadels damn near completely under the water line? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,106 [ERN] MajorRenegade Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 10,906 posts 4,896 battles Report post #12 Posted October 18, 2016 Well it up to you guys to see how they're......but sadly nda prevent me from saying if they're good, bad or in the between. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,422 [SOLOH] Triela50 [SOLOH] Beta Testers 4,320 posts Report post #13 Posted October 18, 2016 What the heck are you talking about? I just watched some vids on the RN ships and they have their citadels damn near completely under the water line? Logic it burns us!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
351 Citrusss Members 1,150 posts 9,100 battles Report post #14 Posted October 18, 2016 What the heck are you talking about? I just watched some vids on the RN ships and they have their citadels damn near completely under the water line? okay. not citadel itself. but: Their hulls lack heavy armor protection and have a relatively high beam. In contrast to their counterparts of the same type, this results in fewer over-penetrating hits (with minimum damage) received from large-caliber shells at close ranges Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 [ANK-A] RadioaktiveTwinkieO_O [ANK-A] Alpha Tester 166 posts 8,838 battles Report post #15 Posted October 18, 2016 Well it up to you guys to see how they're......but sadly nda prevent me from saying if they're good, bad or in the between. I thought the NDA for the RN cruisers was lifted since they are coming out in like a day? Or was that just for the EU? I know Flamuu and Jingles made videos of them already and Flamuu was doing a live stream with some Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
272 Hurlbut ∞ Members 3,067 posts 2,554 battles Report post #16 Posted October 18, 2016 okay. not citadel itself. but: And the fact that RN Cruiser line get repair party from about T2 or T3 onward? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
351 Citrusss Members 1,150 posts 9,100 battles Report post #17 Posted October 18, 2016 And the fact that RN Cruiser line get repair party from about T2 or T3 onward? can't repair much from the bottom of the sea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
272 Hurlbut ∞ Members 3,067 posts 2,554 battles Report post #18 Posted October 18, 2016 Only if the captains have no clue about how to keeping distance enough to make *ahem* a tactical withdrawal and heal the ship's HP back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,284 The_first_harbinger Members 3,681 posts 8,111 battles Report post #19 Posted October 18, 2016 I'll prepare some high caliber armor piercing imperial exports for her majesty all the same. Fancy firework off of my boardside will be seen as I commemorate her majesty's late arrival. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,106 [ERN] MajorRenegade Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 10,906 posts 4,896 battles Report post #20 Posted October 18, 2016 I thought the NDA for the RN cruisers was lifted since they are coming out in like a day? Or was that just for the EU? I know Flamuu and Jingles made videos of them already and Flamuu was doing a live stream with some that because Contributors have a different nda then supertesters do. Contributors get the test ships for a week or so before released, to test and share their findings with everyone once their nda is lifted on a date that WG give them. supertesters nda is never lifted. you know that old saying? what happen in las vegas, stay in las vegas. same deal with supertest, what happen in supertest, stay in supertest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
552 [NDA] InvalidKey Alpha Tester 1,658 posts 6,794 battles Report post #21 Posted October 18, 2016 I thought the NDA for the RN cruisers was lifted since they are coming out in like a day? Or was that just for the EU? I know Flamuu and Jingles made videos of them already and Flamuu was doing a live stream with some There is more than one type of NDA, and they each have different terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
493 [KVLT] Zhoyzu [KVLT] Members 2,307 posts 9,146 battles Report post #22 Posted October 18, 2016 Well it up to you guys to see how they're......but sadly nda prevent me from saying if they're good, bad or in the between. can you tell someone if theyre fun? I asked a ST once and i figured the question was subjective enough that it wouldnt be a violation of any NDA. WG must have a special clause in the NDA where you cant tell someone if its fun. I just fail to see how a personal opinion violates anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #23 Posted October 18, 2016 aka how to deal with RN CLs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #24 Posted October 19, 2016 can you tell someone if theyre fun? I asked a ST once and i figured the question was subjective enough that it wouldnt be a violation of any NDA. WG must have a special clause in the NDA where you cant tell someone if its fun. I just fail to see how a personal opinion violates anything I think one of the devs told the ST they could say, "It floats, it shoots, it sinks." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
265 nothere01 Members 620 posts 6,152 battles Report post #25 Posted October 19, 2016 Well it up to you guys to see how they're......but sadly nda prevent me from saying if they're good, bad or in the between. nobody asked you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites