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Karulean posted a topic in General Game DiscussionPresenting the all new T10 Italian's cruiser, Venezia. Masterly crafted and design by expert Italians shipbuilder. Encompassing sleek and modern design with speed to match of up to 38 knots. She include the iconic Italian Red and White candy cane paint on her bow and sporting detailed craftsmanship on her exterior design. Using the all new SAP shell technology in a 5x3 configuration for simultaneous 15 shell barrage onto target at sonic speed. Her AA suite is top of the class and will satisfy your needs to protect your precious asset from any would be airstrike. Safety is our number one priority and we ensure your crew will stay safe with our patent pending Exhaust smoke technology to get you out of troubling situation when the need arises complimented by sea mines for any pursuing target that may seek interest in your brand new investment. Get your today at the nearest Regia Marina certified Shipyards for a low cost of 19,900,000 credits. Please provide us with feedback below so that we ensure that your next vehicle of transports, is a Regia Marina's ships. Enjoy future captain, and may she serve you well. Venezia Commercial.mp4
Helstrem posted a topic in General Game DiscussionPeople keep posting nonsense about SAP only being able to damage BB superstructures. This is flat out false. 203mm SAP penetrates 54mm, which means that once it passes the bounce check it does a simple (not affected by angle) check on how thick the plate it struck is and if that plate is 54mm or less, which means that all BB plating is a viable target. French, British, American and Japanese BBs are mostly vulnerable and Russian and German BB bows and sterns are also vulnerable. As long as you don't hit the belt armor, turret armor or conning tower armor you can damage the target. Stop the spread of misinformation.
I've seen a lot of talk about how SAP is overhyped, it's not very good, etc. In my own experience, it feels monstrously powerful - at least on the ships with 8" guns. I have Montecuccoli, Genova and Trento. The latter two being heavy cruisers with 203mm guns of course. Montecuccoli, with only eight 152mm guns, feels very weak. The SAP isn't that powerful against BB superstructure, she can't set fires and she has a very low rate of fire. Even genuine heavy cruisers can outmatch her RoF, and Leander - with the same calibre guns in the same 4x2 layout - has double her fire rate. The only place she feels useful is against destroyers, who melt under the ludicrous damage potential of her SAP shells. Genova and Trento, however - within or without their own tier - feel very strong. I won Trento today, and had two particularly eyebrow-raising games in her. One bottom-tiered, against Tier 8 battleships and destroyers, and one top-tier against a slew of Tier 5 or 6 cruisers and a carrier. Mechanics-wise, SAP is just high-damage AP that can ricochet. The 203mm guns have 54mm of penetration, which is even more than the German 210mm HE shell (52mm). The first game, tier 8 on Trap. Early in the game, I ran into Asashiao. Utterly defenceless against Trento at close range, even without Hydro. Not enough time to save Bismarck, but it lets me take B. It hit her nine times for 9300 damage, killing her - Bismarck, who was closer, did the rest with main and secondary battery. I used the island in B to hide from Richelieu and pop at her 32mm all-over plate. I remember a match I played once as Nurnburg where I burned down a Richelieu from afar. Over 20,000 damage in 26 SAP shells. Then for the end game, the entire team was hunting down the Amagi, and I want to share a particular image from the postgame screen. I had SAP loaded, and Amagi was moving to broadside me at close range. I fired my SAP to reload as AP, and dealt nearly 7k from that one salvo. On a nearly-broadside Amagi, aiming above her belt armour (badly, obviously) I dealt a mere 5k AP damage from a further seventeen hits. This is because 203mm SAP has nearly twice the alpha of the similarly-penetrating German 210mm HE shell. It felt very easy. In the tier 6 battle, I was chasing the enemy Ryujo at close range. She was running away from me, at a steep angle. I was able to just pump SAP into her upper deck and flight deck, penetrate where AP would surely have bounced, and dealt 6-7k per salvo. I picked her apart with over 38k damage in 30 hits. What even is this score, I'm trash: Like, this just feels like such an easy mode. I understadn that you should switch regularly between SAP and AP as you should HE and AP, and in Genova this has led to incredible games, but a lot of the time, it looks totally unnecessary. I feel I couldn't do these kind of damage games in other ships, even other ship classes at times. Am I getting something about of these Italian cruisers that others aren't?