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  1. Before anyone dismisses this as the usual DMG saturation... I provided the replay... You been advised (in other words, I am excluding DMG saturation in this case)... I'll keep it short without leaving out any value details... I am in a Kami in a tier 7 match, towards the end of the match... I torp a BB... I die... Boring so far I know... That is the summery of the battle... The details are as follows... Launch a full Kami salvo at the tier 7 BB (the new green Luigi Pasta BBs)... They all land.... He is still alive... How is that possible ??? I've watch the replay like 5 times already and the torps were spread out to not trigger DMG saturation.. Kami torps hit like a Russian horse... Sink any BB in its tier range usually, within 5 shots... This left me baffled, so I look at the Replay... In any other tier 7 BB, its a DEV strike... My theory ??? Power creep... Force by the "population and popularity" statistic variable explanation, from the RU Summit of 2019. How would you make BB popular with this variable ???A plausable explination would be By taking away the fear of the common threats they will face... Making torps DMG hit like pillow fists rather then an explosive ordnance. This is detrimental to the current DD (especially torp DDs). It reduces them to "PT Boats" then actual Destroyers... Here is the evidence collected... I even went to the training room to test my theory (or my frustration depending on your POV)on tier 7 BBs. Test subject of my theory... The Match in question. Time stamp on the replay The 7 min to 6:20 mark of the match. 20210312_215242_PJSD025-True-Kamikaze_50_Gold_harbor.wowsreplay (No longer works due to the patch change). BTW The next patch is ready for advance DL RIGHT NOW! GL and HF
  2. Hi! I'm new to the forums. I've been playing on and off for 3 years or so. Only recently have I gotten fairly good at the game. I'm a battleship main, although I dabble in heavy cruisers and destroyers. Never light cruisers or aircraft carriers. Bleck. Anyway, so far the rework for me has been... polarizing. It's not terrible, and for cruisers and destroyers, I actually quite like the changes. For battleships, though I feel that Deadeye has had some pretty detrimental effects to the entire class. While on paper it's a buff, it encourages poor play to the extent that battleships, I feel, have minimal impact on the game now. Here's why I feel this is happening. Most battleships default to spending the first critical few minutes of the game playing passively. Then, 3-8 minutes in, a critical point is reached. At this point, the team that is dug in better starts to push. At this point the game is already over. What I mean is that while battleships hang out on the back line, cruisers and destroyers are dictating the outcome of the match. The battleships might throw up some big damage numbers, but by the time they are in position to impact the match, the victor has already been decided. Now, some stats: I consider myself a decent player, but it wasn't always this way. I started playing when I was just 14 so obviously I didn't have a grasp of much other than kill the enemy more often than they kill you. Now that I am older, I believe I play the game at a somewhat higher level. My overall winrate is about 52.65% and rising fast. It's been about a week and a half since the rework hit. My 21 day average win rate is just under 60%, though it's falling quickly now. My 7 day win rate? Just under 53%. Right now I feel helpless to impact the game the way I did before. Even though i've tried to adapt my play to the rework, my primary difficulty lies with my efforts doing nothing in the face of a team that could go either way. Half the time, they push. Half the time, they don't. Before the rework everyone would kind of push, and whoever did it better, with better positioning and coordination, would win. That way, an individual battleship player could make a big difference. Now it's a toss up. Hilariously, my highest winrate battleship since the rework is Thunderer. Seems quite telling to me. Now that camping is the norm, it makes sense that she does well, because she excels at it. It doesn't have to be this way. I run deadeye on all my non-brawlers, and I have good success with it. But I don't exclusively camp on the back line, because you don't have to. Simply take advantage whenever it works, but when there's a ship spotted within your detection range, there's no need to panic. Having deadeye active half the time and being a team player will make you leagues better than a player that has deadeye active all the time and sits in the back doing nothing for the team. I just hope people will realize that, because right now, I'm hearing stories of groups of battleships actively running away, like cattle, from cruisers and destroyers that infringe on their precious detection range. Sigh. I admit that these observations are mine and mine only. It is entirely possible that I am wrong, and I just haven't adapted to rework play. I also think that the 21-day numbers I threw up are potentially skewed because of the french destroyers I grinded immediately after the rework (remember what I said about DDs having outsized impact now). Maybe I've just been unlucky for the last week or so. In any case, I'm very interested to hear your feedback. Have any of you noticed this? What, if anything, have you done about it? Do you think it's a problem? Or anything else you want to say. If you think I'm a moron, go for it! Tell me all about it. Thanks for reading!
  3. Det0naMarkBR

    Azur Lane Guild Recruit

    -Eng- This is a new guild of Azur Lane called "Azul Lane" I dont have many friends, so i want more people in this guild. lol please help me and join now uwu!! -Pt/BR- Esta é uma nova guilda de Azur Lane chamada "Azul Lane" Não tenho muitos amigos, então quero mais pessoas nesta guilda. hehe por favor me ajude e entre agora uwu !! Info: Server: Amagi Guild Name: Azul Lane Guild ID: 335546564 Guild Lvl: 06 (Grinding ^-^) Members: 6/30 (pls join :( ) Discord Link: https://discord.gg/2Zwwn93mWS
  4. Soylent_Red_Isnt_People

    Constructive'ish Criticism

    Hello WG, I downloaded this (quite big; really, 60 gigs?) game to play over the late WInter after being gone for about three plus years. Most all of what I have to say can best be summed up as; expecting folks to somehow enjoy NPE (negative play experience) being the norm for matches rather than the exception is completely unrealistic on your collective part. Yes, it's still possible to have a good match win or lose, with the latter being more typical & far too frequent. It should never be a possibility in the first place to experience a map empty of visible ships (and that further shrouded in multiple clouds of smoke) minutes at a time for one, if not both, teams in a match between real players. However, camping & farming to the exclusion of other productive gameplay was bad before except now it seems little more than try to compete with gimmick ships, Russian BBs, double CVs, or just not play. Your matchmaking is abysmal, to the point of making me only play BBs in random battle after just two nights of play and trying to get what I can out of Coop for the CAs & DDs, simply for the survivability of a battleship or battlecruiser. Making it the common experience for your merely average skill playerbase to be ineffective beyond queuing one type of ship cannot possibly be a good thing, nor hopefully what you intended to be how the game is best played. There are still ten tiers in this game, with multiple lines of ships of various types - yet you folks at corporate clearly still expect everyone to want tier X all day every day. Plus, carriers killed off the very ships this title allows playing, in case any of you didn't know - I understand you're trying anything and everything to attract folks willing to do at least one micro-transaction or else splurge into a high tier Premium or Free XP ship but it would be nice if they wanted to stick around as well, preferably long enough to maybe learn more effective ways to play so everyone else isn't at the mercy of your business approach. And, speaking of micro-transactions, when neither Amazon Pay (keeps trying to log me into Amazon UK) or Paypal will work as the go to you've hindered micro-transactions on my part to the point of 'Why bother'. Farewell Hizen, we never knew ye; our paths shall never cross again. You had an interesting game with little real competition, but once you finish milking ever more churn players will it take this game being as dead as Warplanes before you bother to take notice of anything at all with your approach being wrong?
  5. Even after the reload buff this ship has no role or purpose. I despise this thing. And don't give that "oh you're just not playing it right" [edited]. Any ship can made "good" by shear circumstance. It cant brawl (turning radius and vulnerability to torps), it can't BARELY even engage in medium range fire fights because of its gold awful dispersion, and its armor scheme allows 20k salvos even with good angling, turtleback be damned. You combine all of this with a massive bloated ship with mediocre AA and you have the most hated BB in the game. To add insult to injury, all other BBs had their Cits lowered so the relevancy of turtleback armor is now near useless. WG. Buff. This. Ships. Dispersion.
  6. So Wednesday starts new clan battles... What ship comps do you all expect to see? Is petro going to take moskva's place? Nvesky any good? Is Kots Summer, shimmers comp going to impact clan battles? Slava or shika, which to take? Thoughts and opinions welcome.
  7. IMO, the ability to use defensive measures such as smoke as an offensive weapon is something that needs to be addressed. Being able to aim out of smoke and rain shells on targets and yet, somehow, be completely hidden from your adversary is like using a one-way mirror to win a gunfight. Or like having technology that didn't exist at the time like inferred. It doesn't make sense and frankly, it becomes more of an irritation to players who have to deal with this weird game mechanic that is abused by players far too often. To make the situation worse, since you can't see the target in smoke, shell dispersion is at its maximum limiting the effectiveness to stop the never-ending stream of death raining on you. Many of you know which cruisers I'm talking about and at tier X this mechanic is unavoidable showing up in almost every match, sometimes in force when 3 or 4 of these ships are on the same side. Yes, its the cruiser smoke/ HE spam meta, and it has got to go. I have some suggestions, however. What I'm suggesting is to force commanders who use the smoke consumable to use the minimap to try to land shots on their targets. If you are good at it you could apply some pretty good damage. However, using optics to pinpoint targets while in the cover of smoke would not be possible in the same sense it would not be possible to see a ship in heavy smoke. Let's be real, smoke works no matter what direction to look through it. A second option is to add an effect in-game that a ship in smoke would become visible for .25 seconds when firing its guns. This would be similar to how the ship would light up when the flash of the guns illuminate the area. This effect could essentially make a ship in smoke to be completely visible if it has a high rate of fire. This mechanic could also be applied to the ships outside of smoke making them visible for the .25 seconds to the commander in smoke as well. In this case, optics could be used to attempt to land shots. The third option would be to do a combination of the previous two suggestions. These suggestions would make smoke a defensive measure again forcing commanders to decide if it is worth the risk to shoot. Give commanders the option to shoot out of smoke in an attempt to apply damage if they see the opportunity, but don't give them free rain to apply massive damage almost unchallenged. Let me know what you think.
  8. Are French Destroyers any good? Do they stack up favorably or unfavorable to other nation's destroyers? The French Destroyer thread is mostly made up of threads about the Premiums. I also saw Yuro take a jab at Pan-Asian Destroyers saying their torpedoes were obsolete now, is that line pretty much dead?
  9. warheart1992

    Meta enduring ships

    So recently I decided to make a return to Fletcher and finally complete my grind through the USN DD line, one of my favourites. What struck me was that even after loads of changes in the meta in recent years, she is still a very good and reliable ship, still capable of being a very strong torpedo boat and a decent knifefighter. From there a few other ships sprung to mind, some that with few changes have stayed relevant in the ever changing meta of the game even after years have passed; thought about hearing other opinions of ships that remain relevant after quite some time. Another example would be Atago; still a reliable ship and a safe choice for a tier VIII premium CA, with heal, accurate and strong main battery, concealment and torpedoes. From the middle tiers Fuso and Warspite spring to mind. They still are good ships regardless of various changes in how the game plays. Looking forward to hearing and finding out about other ships falling in that category .
  10. This is what to look forward too in 2020... Let me set the stage, In a Flint finding my favorite Wifu rock in the map so that I can rein fire in domination mode... B cap is being rushed by the reds, only 2 ships at A cap so I aim for the middle of my rocky Wifu... I got spotted from B Next thing I know, half my HP is gone... Its not from the reds at B (they have a clear angle to my citadel). It was a BB from behind the rock.... Out of my range but yet easy for him to take half my HP.. As a narrow target as I was (facing north and south bow on at the time), I was shocked but not surprised.. AP from BBs has gotten to easy to citadel light cruisers even from bow on... Due to these circumstances, I dont blame if my follow cruisers dont want to play Domination mode properly... A BB nails 3 shots on a bow on Light cruiser just getting into position and its port... It is what it is, the game is centered on BBs/guns and rockets for 2020. I'll adapt (pics below). I would include the replay but I after 30min of searching in the WOWS drives.. I haven't found it
  11. Although it's been more than a month now since the CV rework, I still have not been able to any comprehensive guides on the recommended captain skills for the different classes thus far. All I've heard so far is that concealment has been somewhat reduced in importance compared to before the rework, but nothing solid. What are the new builds for carriers in this post-rework environment, and how have the old builds for the other classes changed as well, if at all? In addition, has concealment expert been rendered obsolete? Is AA-spec the new optimal build?
  12. TheGreatBlasto

    Best Ships for the New Meta?

    I have tried my best to be a good team player for all it's worth. I do a decent job of it in BBs and cruisers. I also shout out instructions and tag easy kills. I support DDs going for the cap. Admittedly, I suck at team play in DDs but then I only play stealth IJN torp botes which are useless at capping. (I don't play CVs at all.) The new meta appears to be "to heck with team play and even trying to win" because you're highly likely to lose half your team in the first 5 minutes, so just focus on maximizing your damage score. Last night I only played two games. Both were routs. In the second one, I was in my trusty seal-clubber Wyoming on Big Race. As described above, we lost 6 ships in minutes against zero kills. I ended up as Last Man Standing against 8 ships. I can't take it anymore. From now on all I care about is damage. What ships would you use for this purpose? I'm think RN BBs and mid-tier IJN cruisers. I'm pretty choked about this newest meta.
  13. Hello. In recent months I've come to some realizations about WoWS and its development. During this time I played quite a lot of Yugumo, Shimakaze, Akizuki, and Kitakaze. I finished Kitakaze's grind to Harugumo with: 69 battles, 63.77% WR, 84.4k Avg Dmg, 1971 WTR, and top 50 on wows-numbers leaderboard (and apparently the max XP game for it). I will be covering two main topics: (1) How I played Kitakaze, and (2) how Kitakaze fits into the current WoWS meta. Maybe I should have split this into two different posts, but in my mind they were related, since I view Kitakaze as a good representation of an issue in the second section. (1) Kitakaze Gameplay Kitakaze is an extremely flexible destroyer with great concealment, good torpedoes, and outstanding guns. While an easy ship to play, the point of my playstyle is to not be content with good games but to strive for the best performance at all times. Caps: Plagued with mediocre maneuverability and no hydro she cannot easily win caps other than gunning enemy DDs off of it, while not quite claiming it herself since it is usually unsafe to do so. People these days have improved their aim on destroyers, and thus early-game knife-fighting is more team-dependent rather than the skill of each DD player involved. Early-game is especially dangerous because the fight has not yet evolved, usually meaning more concentrated fire on DDs. At the same time, if you’re going to avoid cap then at least have an alternative purpose. Time spent doing nothing is time spent losing. Enagaging - Knife-fighting: Outside of caps, however, the ship excels at engaging DDs. With 5.9km concealment and a little situational awareness, you can always (minus radar/CVs) choose your engagements. You will mostly spot other DDs beforehand, and the few DDs that have higher concealment will not have ample time to disengage. The key is situational awareness such that you are prepared and want to engage. A favorable exchange means you have dealt significantly more damage to them than them to you - equal or less damage is a poor exchange. This point is not universal, but Kitakaze is an excellent gunboat and therefore should excel at that. Do this by preparing all turrets on the side you expect to engage, by using AP as necessary, and by aiming well. I love knife-fighting, but these days you must be especially aware of who is behind the enemy DD. Again, the goal is a favorable exchange, so even if you're melting the poor DD, him and his teammates may be doing greater work upon you. Engaging - General engagement: You want to make use of your guns on BBs and even CAs as necessary. DDs are natural counters to BBs which “anchor” down positions for their team. I smoke in a position such that: (1) (ideally) can use hard cover as necessary to escape in case of torps/radar, (2) (ideally) includes a teammate that needs it (emphasis on "need" since a full HP BB in smoke without shots is literally useless), (2) not one single puff of smoke that is very telling of your position, (3) someone other than yourself is spotting the ship(s) you want to engage, and (4) you can engage at least two enemies. It's fine to damage farm one ship but, as I've learned from CVs, to excel you want to set fires on multiple ships. Mitigate danger with several puffs of smoke, propulsion mod, and not sitting full broadside in it. CAs are much tougher to engage, again because the exchange likely won't be favorable. In general, if it's safe to do so, engage them over BBs. However, engaging CAs as a DD is very situational and ship dependent and ultimately it is up to you to learn and decide. Don't spend all game gunboating from a distance. While it's certainly viable, save that for Harugumo. Kitakaze is too good in too many areas to not take advantage of. So, as necessary, do your part on the frontline with caps and knife-fighting. Torpedos: Double (with reload booster) sextuple JP torps are not to be ignored. The one and only downside is the reload; at least the reload booster is ready by the time the torps are. With this slow reload, use them wisely. The Build Upgrades: Main Armaments Mod 1 - pretty obvious, though to be honest I used to main Magazine Mod 1 and now own 900 det flags) Propulsion Mod 1 - None of the options are a big deal, but even with LS having propulsion knocked out is annoying Aiming System Mod 1 - you're a gunboat Propulsion Mod 2 - Knocks off a lot of time on accelerating, which is important if you sit in smoke. For steering, just remember it's only about a second difference there. Concealment System Mod 1 - I don't even know why there's other options since nobody in the game ever chooses anything else Main Battery Mod 3 – Fractions of a second but noticeable, and think of it as increased DPM. Skills: I have no 19-pt captains and never plan for it (even Shoukaku only 18.5 pts with 385 games). Kitakaze I started with 15 pts (Yamamoto simply for spamming red tracers) and worked to the below 16 pts. With 19 I’d opt for another T3 skill, probably DE. PT – situational awareness LS – crappy engine is better than no engine AR – more DPM BFT – more DPM; highly debatable tier, but: SE looks nice, but is realistically only a few shots difference, SI I personally wouldn’t make use of as I use consumables conservatively (and run prem), DE I feel sheer quantity of shells will suffice instead IFHE – feel the power of melting anything and everything CE – so obvious that it’s one of the big reasons I think WoWS ship builds are boringly static TLDR: Build and play towards her many strengths, always for better performance, not to try and mitigate weaknesses or personal shortcomings. (2) WoWS Meta Bluntly put, I believe this game is devolving as things become simpler (dumbed down). I finished Kitakaze's grind to Harugumo with: 69 battles, 63.77% WR, 84.4k Avg Dmg, 1971 WTR, and top 50 on wows-numbers leaderboard (and apparently the max XP game for it). Comparatively, I have Yugumo with: 126 battles, 63.49% WR, 65.4k Avg Dmg, and 2096 WTR. Playing Kitakaze and Yugumo, the difference between them is almost comical, and among other things brought me to question my enjoyment of this game. (1) Gunboat focus – It’s disappointing how easy and excellent Kitakaze is, versus my dear torpedo counterparts which are infinitely more fun yet difficult to play. The game has largely been reduced to either sheer shell spam, or fire spam, until the red bar melts to 0. It’s sad that torpedoes, as one of the two things I loved about WoWS over traditional shooters is relatively obsolete in the face of radar and sonar on so many ships now, compounded by spotter planes (insanely far in front of the source ship) and fighter planes (up for several mins), not to mention CV planes, torp distance detection, and ships changing course which should be the natural counters. While still nominally existent, they are not as very impactful on games as a whole. Try to play torp DDs and you’ll realize how team-dependent they are (towards winning). While Kitakaze can look at anything and begin melting it, Yugumo (especially Shimakaze) require patience and much more situational awareness, both into torpedo launching as well as positioning, due to them being more fragile (defenseless). (2) CVs – Truly the most tragic loss to me personally as a CV main, the second thing I loved about WoWS over traditional shooters. I think there’s enough discussion about the new style of gameplay that I need say no more. Regarding the rework itself, though, I am appalled that this is the solution. It makes me believe they simply, after several years of anticipation, decided to thrown in an immature, random, and drastic change simply for the sake of checking it off the list. It’s like it was labeled on the checklist as “fix CVs”, instead of what the class’s issues actually were. Another case of classic WG “solutions plagued with more problems.” I wonder if this rework’s true long-term goal was for people to lose interest in CVs, thus ending complaints about them, all while still being able to advertise them. (3) Static builds – clear choices such as everyone having concealment mod and skill, many basically useless skills, and class-only (CV) skills, all of which demote creative builds and dynamic gameplay. It’s pretty clear that certain skills were meant for select certain ships or classes. The skill tree needs a major rework with the end result being more dynamic gameplay, so rework it in a way such that there’s more than one viable build. The game is arcade-like as it is, so it’s fine to have ships being played slightly differently. For a while, I was torn between mainly spending my time on WoWS or WOT: ships is more balanced (less snowballing stomps) but relatively too simple and thus boring, while tanks is less balanced but more fun (shots instead of salvos and meaningful armor means more important bounces, instead of simply shooting a relatively predictable target until all HP is gone). For other personal reasons I now don’t play either (still might log on to keep my username :P). My brief run at War Thunder was much more enjoyable (though biased since that’s how a game always is when starting), though again for personal reasons I stopped that as well.
  14. So i got Bismarck a while ago, and I cannot figure this ship out for the life of me. I've had 2 decent games in her since I bought it, neither over 95k damage. Other than those two, my average damage is 33k. I can't snipe cause bad range and terrible dispersion, and can't usually push cause I get focused and die. I would wait to push, but the moment I'm spotted, PT goes to 4-6 right away, and get torched and die or loss 70% of my hp in the first few mins. I find her hard to handle and usually end up blundering around and not able to do much. What I do shoot at I miss or bounce/shatter. The one decent game I had was a two-Bisko division with @Avenge_December_7, but other than that one one, it's been really rough. I did well in the rest of the German BB line, even Gneisenau, but I cannot get Bismarck to click for me. I'll try to bow-tank, but the HE spam from every BB out there is real. So that is useless. What am I missing? I am about to quit on this line and go play German cruisers. Help needed!
  15. ...when I'm doing good or in a good/strong ship, something wouldn't always go wrong to throw the match or my performance in it. I mean, it seems that every time I'm doing well and having fun, or plan to at least, the meta changes slightly in a flash and all the sudden there is a flood of my counters, AND constant bottom-tiering. When both decide to be nice, but something in WoWS is still against me, I'll get perfect set-ups(even the rest of the team are in perfect ships for defeating the enemy team's line-up) TOTALLY, COMPLETELY, AND UTTERLY RUINED BY TOMATO TEAMS SO BAD, THEY CAN'T KILL spotted 100 HP DDs, and THEY SHOW BROADSIDE IN EVERYTHING, meanwhile COMPLETELY MISSING THE OPEN BROADSIDE OF EQUALLY TOMATO ENEMIES AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, UNTIL THE TOMATO ENEMIES STOP MISSING OR FINALLY ANGLE. OH, DO I SOUND LIKE I'M ANGRY? THAT'S BECAUSE I AM! Oh, and that's not all, actually. Sometimes there will be clusters of enemy ships stopped or going very slow at one place or another, but instead of feasting and farming torpedo hits on said clusters of enemy ships(no radar in them, by the way), my allied DDs will be deleted because they were so inept that that they were brought down to EXTREMELY LOW health by(OF ALL THINGS) A MUTSUKI FOR GOODNESS SAKE. Sigh. I am so glad when these battles are over, but then when I jump into another ship for another battle, back I am into a match with floods of my counters and I am bottom tier. Oh, and there are MUCH better(read: higher-tier) ships on both my team and the enemy team, but my team's top-tier ships of my class are gone within minutes of the opening of the match, while the only thing gone from the enemy team's top tier ships of my class is any trace of doubt or fear as they farm damage, medals, and Devastating Strikes off my team. I do my best, but it's just not enough. The enemy team's ships are too powerful,their captains are just as undefeatable, and what damage they don't manage to deal to me my counters do. Inevitably, I go down too, and it's a loss by steamroll for my team. If this kind of crap were uncommon, I'd be fine with it, and just dismiss it as a fluke, but it is quite common for me. Also, when I am doing reasonably well against one or two enemy ships that would only be much of a threat if I was on low hp, in come allied torps, aimed miles away from where the enemy ships are, to deliver me as a boxed, gift-wrapped, and set under the tree easy kill for the enemy ships. Does anyone else see this kind of thing happen a lot?(or at all?) If so, please tell me in the poll. Honestly, I try to ignore it and have fun anyway, but constant defeats are anything but fun for me. - Regards, Legoboy0401
  16. 457th_FighterGroup

    Opinions on Kongo

    Hey guys, I've been thinking about a line to grind, or a ship to get. One of the ships I'm looking at is Kongo. Is she a good ship at the moment or has she been powercrept to oblivion? I've seen both opinions.
  17. Hello all, When I started playing this game in earnest about two years ago I started with the RN cruiser line. I was attracted to this line partly for the smoke and historical value (loved the ROF too). RN cruisers even before the smoke nerf were probably the most unforgiving to new players. I got tired of being squishy, stopped at the Neptune and migrated to other lines that did not depend on smoke so heavily for survival. But while playing up to the Neptune over several months I began to notice how much more effective players became at countering my smoke. And it didn’t seem to matter much if I smoked in open water or behind an island. Standard smoke play for RN cruisers means you smoke up while undetected, deploy hydro and then fire on enemy ships and reap profits. Lately, even in my destroyers players are hitting my ship reliably in smoke while angled or moving back and forth. Combine that with the inevitable torpedoes players send to smoke, Hydro, RADAR, spotter plane and the smoke firing detection nerf and what exactly is the point anymore? Smoke has kind of become a liability. On DDs and CA/CLs that can take anything else in the smoke slot (TRB/RADAR) I take that instead. I have exhausted all mitigation efforts to not get hit in smoke. Smoke screens just don’t seem to matter most times. My theory is that smoke was nerfed right around the time the player base skill had become good enough to overcome the advantages of smoke anyway. Ranked season at T7 with the Belfast fiasco had taught everyone how to deal with smoke ships. Nerfing smoke when WG did only served to further weaken ships that depended on it for survival. Players that experienced Ranked that season came away with new tactics, techniques and procedures to successfully prosecute ships in smoke while players that did not participate were in for a rude surprise if they deployed smoke without factoring in lessons learned. At this point in the game veteran player retention seems to be at an all-time high so this knowledge has been retained. Combine those experiences with the natural progression of player skill at high tier and we start looking at the final nail in the coffin for smoke play. Even I can reliably hit ships in smoke now and I am an average player. I think the solution is that WG should look at evolving the smoke mechanic to reflect the new realities of player skill if they want it to be a useful consumable. Creeping smoke on the Haida and Cossack is a good start but a smoke refresh is overdue. The legendary smoke upgrade for the Minotaur hasn’t been deployed in battle in enough numbers yet for me to form an opinion on that. For clarification, I am not advocating we go back to the days where people could smoke right in front of you and farm you to death but I think we need a change. I know my experiences may be subjective but lately I have seen many players eschew smoke for anything else. Do you think smoke should evolve to match current player skill/meta? Do you think smoke was nerfed too much? Please let me know your observations. Thanks.
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