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I never bought a one, but I look and I have 4 now. Which one do you prefer? What about if it gets up-tiered? I know most folks already say the Krasny is terrible - and she's silly for sure, and pretty awful if up tiered. But which do you prefer and why? Murmansk Kirov Mikoyan Krasny Krym Tnx for your opinions :)
In a desperate attempt to reduce the amount of threads on this, I'll try and consolidate as much as I can: From @Hapa_Fodder (with some minor clarification updates from me in italics) Commanders, in Update 0.9.5 there will be a soviet cruiser branch split. Due to the entirety of the current branch except Moskva consisting of light cruisers, Moskva will be replaced in the branch by the light cruiser Alexander Nevsky and will herself become a special ship for Coal. Apart from that, cruiser Kirov will be replaced in the branch by Kotovsky and become a premium ship. Details of the upcoming changes: Cruiser Moskva will get the "special" status (no credit boost). It means that base cost of the ship's post-battle service will be reduced from 180,000 to 90,000 credits and you will be able to assign commanders from other ships of the same nation without penalty or retraining. Players who currently have Moskva researched but not yet bought or have her sold will get Moskva. Players who currently have Kirov researched but not yet bought or have her sold will get Kirov and a perma camo. Players who have researched either of these ships at any point, regardless of current status (sold, line reset, in port, painted pink with blue bows, etc) will receive these ships in port, with camos, on 9.5. If the soviet cruiser branch was reset, a bonus to Research points will be applied to cruiser Alexander Nevsky. The Unique Upgrade or the mission for it, as well as all purchased permanent camouflages, will remain on Moskva. In case the Type 20 permanent camouflage wasn't purchased, players will get it. The commander of Moskva will retain his specialization. Cruiser Alexander Nevsky will be available only when researched and purchased in the tech tree. The same rules are applied to cruisers Kirov and Kotovsky. Additional Information (As of May 7th) not in the post: There will be no compensation for the permanent camo bought on Moskva. (Confirmed via streams and by WG employees on forums - will try and find a direct link tomorrow). The camo that is received will be identical to the camo players are given. Aurora will still be unique. 9.4 will see early release of the new Russian ships but no impact to Moskva or Kirov at that time. They will only move when 9.5 drops. 9.5 will drop somewhere around June 10th or so (4 weeks from 9.4 so not likely sooner based on normal cycles) If you have the needed XP on the ships 1 tier lower than these, you'll be able to research and buy them immediately when 9.5 drops. Pending Questions (not clearly answered above): Answered: If someone resets the current Moskva tech tree line and does not make it back to clicking Research on Moskva by the time 9.5 drops - will they still get her? Basically, is it if you have "EVER" researched Moskva, you get it, or do you have to have it "currently" researched as it states above. This would be odd to punish people for resetting lines. @Slumlord_Dasboot Confirmed that if you have reset the line but not yet made it back to these ships, you WILL get them as if they were researched. If the Unique Upgrade mission is in progress and you sell Moskva, will the Unique Upgrade mission still be there? @dbw86 There will be no compensation if the ship is in port at all. This is why people are going to sell it before 9.5 hits. Research Bureau Related: Is simply researching the Moskva sufficient to count as Tier X Ship #2 for the 5 needed for Research Bureau? Research Bureau Related: When the patch hits and Moskva is moved to special status, does my Tier X ship count for the RB decrease by 1? IE Do special Tier 10 ships count for the RB? @Alcubierre_Star_Drive I will keep this as updated as possible when answers appear. if you have information to add and a reliable source/link, that would be awesome.
The mad lads did it again in the Cruiser Split() you'll lose the current T10 CA Moskva (and if you have the Type 20 you'll lose also 5k doubs) you'll have to grind T10 CL AL. Nevsky(but that was a given) and also you won't get T10 CA Petropavlovsk and on top of that you'll need to research T8 Tallin and T9 Riga to recover the ship they've stolen from you... Let that sink in. Now what they should have done is give us T10 CA Petropavlosvsk with the perma if you had the perma for T10 CA Moskva (like they did for Cleveland on the American Split) and the same for T5 CL Kirov and T5 CL Kotovsky. Edit: So to sum it all up we lose a ship that afterward we could get for free(coal); meaning grinding it was pointless in the first place(since we'll have to do it again) and for those who invested in the game and have spent 5k in the Type 20 they get to keep the camo(while others get it for free). Edit 2: Some people said in the comments below that they wouldn't give you a brand new ship(so i present this image from the American Split also addressing the camo problem). Edit 3: People seam to have a hard time looking(pictures) or reading so i will make it clearer: In the US Cruiser split you had: Before the split: You had US Cruiser T9 Baltimore with her perma camo(Occupying the T9 spot in the tech tree silver line) After the split: You had a stock T8 Baltimore with her perma camo and an brand new 8 point Capt and You had a T9 Buffalo (a brand new ship occupying the same spot that you had with the T9 Baltimore before) with her perma camo; all commanders, upgrades and XP earned transferred to her(from T9 Baltimore) and If you had a duplicated camo WG would give you a refund in Doubloons. In the USSR Cruiser split you "had"(will happen in 0.9.5 according to WG): Before the split: You had USSR Cruiser T10 Moskva (Occupying the T10 spot in the tech tree silver line) with her perma camo the Type 20(for those who bought it) After the split: You get Special USSR Heavy Cruiser T10 Moskva(that should cost ~240k coal and will be available in the Arsenal) with her perma camo as all Premium and or Special ships have. You lose the Ship Occupying the T10 spot in the tech tree silver line(Now a Light Cruiser spot) although according to WG if you reset the line your RP gets applied to T10 Nevsky(so we should get Nevsky) Those who bought the Type 20 perma camo for Moskva(and didn't have a time machine to know about the split and this mess) lose 5k doubloons You get to grind the Ship Occupying the T10 spot in the tech tree silver line again although if you had Moskva (and didn't reset the line) you already had it researched (I already expected this) If you want to have an T10 USSR Heavy Cruiser in the tech tree silver line like Moskva was before. You get to grind the from T7 Shchors to T8 Tallin to T9 Riga to T10 Petropavlovsk Since who Researched T10 Moskva but have not bought her will still get her as an Special Ship those who have her in the port will lose 19,500,000 credits and about 7,000,000 in upgrades(cuz of upgrade duplication done before) WG didn't said nothing about in-game refunds. Edit 4: To sum it all up after the USSR Cruiser split you get: Special USSR Heavy Cruiser T10 Moskva with her perma camo as all Premium and or Special ships have. You lose 19,500,000 credits(Moskva credit price) If you bought the Type 20 Perma camo for Moskva you lose 5k Doubloons Since you are not getting T10 Al. Nevsky in return for the removal of the Moskva from the main line you'll lose around 19,500,000 credits and about 7,000,000 in upgrades plus the T9 DM. Donskoi grind.
Just wanted to say thanks to WG for slipping in two new premiums in our ports, including a Tier X. Will be putting my 19pt cruiser captain in these and seeing what I can do with them. Still think the issue with the tech-tree Moskva's perma-camo should have been handled better, but oh well. Thanks again!