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  1. The following are a series of quick reviews of the Black Friday ships. Access to all eight of these ships was provided to me by Wargaming at no cost to myself. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed here are accurate as of patch 0.9.10. Please be aware that their performance may change in the future. Happy Holidays! I am not going to be negative snark-monster this year. Okay, that's a lie. My first draft of this was chock-full of grumpy holiday resentment. But I vented. I got it all out of my system. I deleted said draft and now I'm feeling all better. I'm able to genuinely enjoy the season again, mostly thanks to being able to play super-auntie. Heck, I'm even finding myself excited for some of the upcoming releases Wargaming has announced for this holiday season.. Even with the inevitable accelerated release schedule that comes this time of year, I feel ready. 2020 has been one Hell of a ride for the game, even if you ignore the pandemic. There has been so much content, so many releases and so many events, it's been genuinely hard for me to keep track. As of Black Friday this year, there are now forty-three (43!) premium and reward ships that have been released and we know of at least two others due out before the end of the year. That's nine more ships than the previous front-runner of thirty-six releases, way back in 2016. As has been custom for Wargaming since 2018, Black Friday sees the release of four new clone ships with sexy black and chrome camouflage schemes. While I would love to use their releases as an excuse to update some of my older reviews, it's just not realistic. Still, I thought I could throw something together that's fun while also speaking to the current performance of said ships. To that end, I present to you, the Twelve [edited] of Christmas. On the first day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ A Ship That's Retiring Shortly! ♫ Massachusetts Black Massachusetts is arguably one of the best premiums that Wargaming has ever made. She's not only fun and powerful, her gimmicks went on to inspire hope of seeing an entire tech tree line based on her performance. It's a shame that she's being retired with patch 0.10.1. I resent "fear of missing out" as a sales tactic and I'm not advocating that you panic buy this ship if she does not interest you, but if she was on your list of ships to get, now's the time. On the second day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Two Turtlebacks ♫ Tirpitz Black When she was released back in September of 2015, Tirpitz was a monster. It was inconceivable that a battleship could be (mostly) immune to citadel hits. On the third day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Three Not-Bensons ♫ Sims Black This isn't an easy ship to recommend precisely because there are better ships out there. For the longest time, she was compared negatively to other American destroyers owing to her smaller gun battery and lacklustre fish. On the fourth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Four Deep Water Fish ♫ Asashio Black Behold, the ship that single handed made battleships unplayable. Oh wait, that didn't happen. Asashio's torpedoes are stupid. They have a 20km range, almost zero detection and hit like trucks. Oh, but they can only hit battleships and aircraft carriers. She's so single-minded in her purpose its hilarious. On the fifth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Five American Piercing Shells! ♫ Alaska Black Like Massachusetts, Alaska is set to be pulled with patch 0.10.1. It's a shame, she's a very nice ship with great artillery. Her AP shells have improved auto-ricochet mechanics and solid penetration, allowing her to flex between ammunition types no matter what target presents themselves from moment to moment. Combine that with good durability and Surveillance Radar and perhaps you can see why she's being retired. On the sixth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Six Tribals skulking ♫ Cossack Black Tribal-class destroyers are excellent destroyer-hunters and cap-contesters. This is a high-risk, high-reward style of play that's not for everyone. On the seventh day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Seven reloads boosting ♫ Jean Bart Black Seeing this ship here is a surprise. Jean Bart was retired last year due to her popularity. This is largely owing to her Main Battery Reload Booster for her guns which allows her to punish exposed enemies like few ships can. On the eighth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Eight turrets spamming ♫ Atlanta Black I will always have a soft spot for Atlanta, ever since I watched PhlyDaily and BaronVonGames spamming her rapid-fire 127mm/38s at everything that moved in Closed Beta. On the ninth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Nein second bomb drop ♫ Graf Zeppelin Black Graf Zeppelin had a ... well, let's just say "storied" development history, including (but not limited to) bombs that required you to lead a target by nine whole seconds. No, I'm not kidding. That's gone now, thankfully. On the tenth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Ten different skins ♫ Atago Black Okay, I'm exaggerating a little. Between Atago, Atago B and her Arpeggio of Blue Steel clones she has nine permanent camouflage options -- ten if you include her default, no-camo skin. On the eleventh day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Eleven inch shells bouncing ♫ Scharnhorst Black Scharnhorst's 283mm AP shells are notorious for having very limited overmatch potential. With the increase in cruiser armour with the HE and IFHE rework earlier this year, her shells ricochet more often than they ever have previously. On the twelfth day of Christmas, Sub_Octavian sent to me... ♪ Twelve torpedo planes ♫ Kaga Black Kaga is best known for her enormous (if squishy) squadrons. Her dive bombers and torpedo bombers come in squadrons of twelve, her rocket planes in squadrons of eight. Thoughts & Feels There are some good ships here. Wargaming has generally picked winners which makes most of them a pretty safe purchase. Atago, Atlanta and Massachusetts would be my top picks for someone who doesn't already have said ships. These are all strong vessels that have aged reasonably well, but most importantly they're all fun to play. I'm glad they've made the older ships available for direct purchase through the Armory for doubloons rather than forcing you to roll the dice or pay cash. If you want the new four ships, you're going to have to either pony up for a massive bundle, buy them directly through the online store or gamble through loot boxes. I am not a fan of loot boxes at all -- it's safe to say that I abhor them almost to Jim Sterling levels of ire (thank god for him). One thing to be super-aware of with these Black ships is that though they may be clones of their parent vessels, they DO NOT COUNT as said parent vessels for the purposes of missions. So, for example, say the Strasbourg event coming up at the end of the year has a mission which you can short cut using Jean Bart. Jean Bart Black would not work for said mission unless specifically listed. This also means that any follow up camouflages or whatever that gets released for the parent ship will not be available on the Black version. So think twice about spending money on these if that's one of the reasons you wanted them. Thank you all for reading. I hope you stay safe over this holiday season. If you have any questions about the performance of any of these ships, this is the place to ask. I'm happy to wax poetic about my favourites and the rest of the community is sure to chime in too. ♥
  2. I just had a game with a Kaga (2 CVs per side). I saw multiple times where the Kaga's torpedo planes would drop all 12 of the squadron's torpedoes at once. How is that possible? I can only do 4 at a time, and that is what the description of the planes says. 12 total planes and four of them in an attack flight. I have the replay...... Update: I just reviewed the game. The torpedo squadron in question was not the Kaga. It was that new ship the Tone. Ah, well. I thought I caught my first hacker..... Screen shot of the incident.....That Tone dropped 8 torpedoes at once....just saying.
  3. Yea it's old - over a year - but (some adult language) it makes me laugh a whole lot. Good primer before going to battle in Kaga.
  4. This morning I played Kaga like three matches in a row. All T8 and below ships. We won 2 of 3. Then I jump in the GZ and its the exact opposite; all up-tier battles and lose 2 out of 3. So do you guys think they actually change the up-tier action or is this just "The Luck of The Draw"? Just curious. tia fyc
  5. LittleWhiteMouse

    Premium Ship Review: Kaga

    The following is a review of Kaga, a ship kindly provided to me by Wargaming. This is the release version of the vessel and these stats are current as of June 1st, 2017.The awkward teenager. Quick Summary: An enormous carrier with specialized dive bomber and torpedo bomber squadron attack modes. Her fighters are not up to snuff.Cost: $43.99 USD including a port slot.Patch and Date Written: May 17th to May 30th, 2017. Patch 0.6.5 to 0.6.5.1. Closest in-Game Contemporary Hiryu, Tier VII Japanese Aircraft CarrierDegree of Similarity:Clone / Sister-Ship / Related Class / Similar Role / Unique Kaga is only superficially similar to a stock Hiryu. At least then Kaga shares Hiryu's fighters, torpedo planes and dive bombers. However, all of Kaga's strike aircraft have unique ordnance, strike patterns and squadron sizes. The physical ship itself shares very little with the other carriers, with her hull based on that of a battleship. PROs Large hit point pool. Well protected citadel, including anti-torpedo bulges. Specialized large dive bomber squadrons with super-accurate drops. Specialized, large torpedo plane squadrons with a special drop pattern. Enormous carrier capacity of 85 planes. Excellent (and optimized) Flight Control Group of 2-2-1, allowing her to use and abuse two torpedo squadrons at the same time. CONs Huge target with large, soft areas that are easy for any HE shell to penetrate. Her impressive looking secondary compliment is more for show. Fighter groups are only tier VI, making them the underdog in almost any match-up. Poor damage potential from her aerial bombs. Her larger flight groups lead to longer reload times for her strike aircraft. Only modest AA power. She turns as like a one legged cow. She's about as fast too. Very easy to spot. Enormous aerial detection range and a large surface detection range too. Kaga is a beast and she looks the part. This carrier is absolutely enormous and she looks armed to the teeth with huge aircraft squadrons cluttering her decks and massive, heavy-cruiser sized defensive batteries. Tack on all of the history behind the vessel and what's not to love? In World of Warships, she's a very interesting aircraft carrier and worth taking a closer look, even if you're not a fan of the ship type. OptionsKaga has the option of using two different Flight Control groups, divided between 1-1-3 squadrons and 2-2-1 squadrons between fighters, torpedo planes and dive bombers respectively. For the first Flight Control group, the hangar capacity is divided between 11 fighters, 21 torpedo planes and 53 dive bombers. The second splits the hangar capacity with 28 fighters, 43 torpedo planes and 14 dive bombers. Consumables:Damage Control Party Module Upgrades: Four slots, standard aircraft carrier upgrades. Premium Camouflage: Tier VI+ Standard. This provides 50% bonus experience gains, 3% reduction in surface detection and 4% reduction in enemy accuracy. For upgrades, I would select the following: In your first slot, take Air Groups Modification 1. Your secondaries and AA guns aren't good enough to be worth hurting your fighters any further. In your second slot, you have a choice. Flight Control Modification 1 is probably considered optimal. Kaga's larger strike air groups have almost a 30s reload time between waves and this will reduce them down by about four seconds. Alternatively, you can try and make your fighters a credible threat by using Air Groups Modiifcation 2. Understand that if you go this route, it's an uphill battle. Your fighters alone aren't likely to win you air supremacy that wasn't already gift wrapped for you by your opponent selecting a Strike-Ranger. In your third slot, take Damage Control System Modification 1. This will get your anti-torpedo protection up to 24% which is quite nice for a carrier. And in your final slot, take Damage Control System Modification 2. You will come under attack and you will suffer fires and floods. It's possible this last module will be the difference between surviving or not. Besides, nothing can really help Kaga pretend to be nimble, so don't kid yourself that the other mods will do you any service. Air Groups Aircraft Types: Mitsubishi A6M2 fighter, Nakajima B5N2 torpedo plane, Aichi D3A1 dive bomber Flight Control Groups: One fighter, one torpedo plane and three dive bombers (1-1-3) or two fighter, two torpedo plane, one dive bomber (2-2-1) Base Squadron Sizes: Four fighters, Six Torpedo Planes, Six Dive Bombers Hangar Capacity: 85 Like Saipan before her, Kaga has some unique features where her air groups are concerned. Fighters Kaga uses tier VI A6M2 "Zero" fighters. These are the exact same fighters you first unlock on the tier VI Ryujo and use again with the stock tier VII Hiryu. They even come in the same squadron size of four fighters which can be upgraded to five if you take the Air Supremacy skill. With mirrored matchmaking between carriers, these fighters have an immediate disadvantage over most other fighters you will encounter. Proper use of the strafe mechanics is key to doing the most damage possible. This will buy your strike aircraft time to do their job. You'll hemorrhage fighters quickly in most cases and eat through even Kaga's substantial reserves. So long as this is used to make strikes to the betterment of your team, the losses are acceptable. It can be worthwhile to freely offer up your fighters to lock down those of your enemy to give your bombers a clear attack run -- with Kaga, this is often all that's needed. More than any other carrier, Kaga benefits from the skill, Dogfighting Expert. It's rare that she will ever face same-tier fighter squadrons, and this provides a ready boost to their (in)efficiency. While this won't give her close to parity in performance with A6M5s or Hellcats (never mind Corsairs), it will give them a bit more attack power to help draw out fights. A6M2 Zeroes hound a Ranger's TBF Avengers. Dive Bombers There are several odd points about Kaga's dive bombers. Superficially, they share the same baseline stats as Ryujo's tier VI D3A1s. This includes hit point total and speed, but the similarities end there. Kaga organizes her dive bombers in squadrons of six planes instead of the usual four found on standard IJN Carriers. Their turn around time in the hangar is 31 seconds up from 19 seconds for Hiryu's dive bombers. In addition, they use a different armament. Kaga's D3A1s are armed with the Type 99 N6 Mod 1 bomb. Compared to those found on Hiryu, they have less armour penetration, a smaller blast-size, reduced fire chance and, most crucial of all, they do less damage. All of these drawbacks are compensated by having an dispersion radius nearly half that of normal IJN dive bomber squadrons and could be closely compared to that from Saipan's. Unlike the American premium, Kaga can tighten this further with a manual drop, landing nearly all of her bombs with pin point accuracy. Properly aimed, you can guarantee all of her bombs will strike a target. This is very necessary as her bombs only do 858 damage per hit (or less on saturated targets). An upgraded squadron with seven planes is only going to put out a maximum of 6006 damage with their strikes which is a far cry from the destroyer-busting salvos from Saipan. With a manual drop, it's unlikely that more than a single fire will be lit as they will all cluster on a single section and most ships will laugh off this kind of damage. It's only through the use of multiple dive bomber squadrons that Kaga can stack any substantial amount of damage and it's not easy going. Moreover, it's often not worth the effort of trying to land these pinpoint strikes and this, in turn, diminishes the value of the 1-1-3 control group. I've found that it's not really necessary to manually drop Kaga's dive bombers. I will spend little more time with them than to align their approach vector along the long-axis of the ship and let them auto drop. This will not result in as many hits overall, but it is more likely to spread fires across multiple sections of the ship. This in turn taxes the Damage Control Party of my target and sets up follow up attacks with torpedo planes quite nicely Overall, Kaga's dive bombers are interesting but they're not the weapon of choice for maximizing damage with this vessel and they largely play a secondary or follow up role. Blast radius of the dive-bombers from tier VII carriers with a reference-Mahan for scale. Kaga is the least likely to detonate targets she strikes with bombs as hits must be grouped quite precisely over top of the magazines to set them off. Other carriers need only land them within the same postal code to have a chance at damaging a whole number of modules. Torpedo Planes Once more, Kaga borrows from Ryujo with the B5N2 torpedo plane. In this case this isn't acting at a disadvantage to Hiryu as both carriers use this aircraft. Immediately players will notice that Kaga's squadron size for her torpedo planes is enormous, comparable to the six-plane squadrons of USN carriers. Their reload time is 29 seconds compared to 21 seconds for Hiryu's squadron of four, but is far in advance of Ranger's 41 seconds. This even compares well to Saipan's 22 second rearmament with her Skyraiders. Taken in isolation, Kaga can turn around more torpedo bombers faster than any of the other tier VII carriers. The large squadron size also comes with the option with the 2-2-1 load-out to operate two squadrons simultaneously (with 31 reserve bombers!), opening up all sorts of brutal meta play. Kaga's torpedoes travel at 48 knots compared to the 35 knots of Hiryu's torpedoes with only a minor sacrifice of 400m worth of range, bringing their reach down to a 3km. This all comes without sacrificing damage which is obscene. Kaga's torpedo drop takes a unique pattern. Rather than dropping line abreast, the formation of six planes drops in two lines, one in front of the other. Each line has three fish. The torpedoes released closest to the target are spread further apart. The second line is more tightly packed -- akin to the initial spacing of USN aerial dropped torpedoes. Casualties taken from Kaga's torpedo planes removes aircraft from this second line first, diminishing the tighter cluster. Like all IJN torpedo aircraft, their torpedoes take a convergent path on a manual drop. The net of this drop is quite different from the usual pattern players are used to evading. By playing with the range of the attack and overlapping salvos, different combinations can be used depending on the target. The wide spread of advanced torpedoes can be ignored in favour of focusing on emphasizing the narrow spread that drops behind. These drops at near point blank range can see players panic to avoid the wide-spread fish only to expose themselves to the cluster coming in behind. The variations are many, especially when doubled up with a second squadron for a cross drop, bullet-hell nightmare that will make for some great YouTube montages. Kaga's torpedo planes allow her to assassinate most surface vessels outright through either a combination of overwhelming damage or a mix of direct assault and damage over time effects. She can afford to attack targets that other carriers might not brave grace of her deep plane reserves. Approximate size of manual torpedo drop spreads at minimum arming range for Ranger (left) and Kaga (right). Both carriers have comparable widths at this range, but Kaga's will converge the further her torpedoes run while Ranger's will diverge over distance. Reference-Mahan used for scale. Load Outs Given the ridiculous strengths of Kaga's torpedo bombers, her 2-2-1 build is optimal. A single torpedo hit against most targets will do more damage than an entire squadron of dive bombers. This build also gives her more fighters to work with to help unstick her attack planes from enemy bandits. The carrier-snipe potential from this build is very real and anyone facing a Kaga should be wary of misplacing Kaga's torpedo plane squadrons lest they find themselves ambushed. So while air superiority is difficult for this carrier to achieve, she can wrest it away by going for the source of enemy aircraft with alarming ease. Firepower Secondary Battery: Ten 200mm guns in single casemate mounts, sixteen 127mm 8x2 turrets. On paper, Kaga appears to carry more firepower than the mid tier IJN Heavy Cruisers. It would be a mistake to expect too much out of these weapons. First of all, they are divided into port and port and starboard batteries, giving her a maximum broadside of five 200mm guns and eight 127mm guns. Second, their fire angles preclude all of the guns from engaging a target in her forward aspect until they're 45º off her bow (or 30º off her stern). Third, their range is limited to 4.5km. And finally, Kaga is an aircraft carrier. She's not built to trade fire with surface ships. While it may be tempting to toss a secondary-specialized Captain in her, it's your funeral. Short of a low health, Soviet destroyer being stupid enough to stray into gun range, your secondaries aren't going to get a whole lot of exercise. Attempts to do so often end hilariously and with a sad trombone sound effect. Manoeuvrability Top Speed: 28.0 knotsTurning Radius: 1080mRudder Shift: 14.4s Maximum Turn Rate: 2.69º per second. Kaga doesn't do anything particularly fast. Her top speed isn't impressive and this leaves her dangerously vulnerable if one flank collapses. When it comes to agility, whole generations live and die before she can manage to turn herself 90º, never mind coming full about. DurabilityHit Points: 51,000Maximum Protection: 19mm + 76mm + 152mm Min Bow & Deck Armour: 19mm extremities, 21mm flight deckTorpedo Damage Reduction: 22% Kaga has an enormous hit point pool for a tier VII carrier, which she deserves given the size of her. Being built on a battleship hull, her layers of protection around her citadel are quite formidable. Her citadel itself has 76mm of protection and is almost entirely submerged. At medium to close ranges, one must also punch through 152mm armoured belt and 19mm anti-torpedo bulges. While this won't turn away battleship shells, it does provide a reasonable obstacle for cruisers and destroyers, giving Kaga some survivability in such encounters, so long as they're kept brief. The downside is that all of this armour around her citadel is made largely irrelevant when it comes to high explosive attacks. Kaga is enormous and most of that upper structure right to her deck is easily penetrated by any high explosive shells she's likely to face. It's almost impossible to miss her once you start shooting and her tall silhouette makes a tempting target. Her torpedo damage reduction isn't great, but at least she has some. Not every carrier can boast that. This can save her from flooding damage and frustrate would-be carrier snipers. Secondary batteries exchange between Kaga and Dunkerque. Don't try this at home. Concealment & Camouflage Base Surface Detection Range: 12.6km Air Detection Range: 13.6 km Minimum Surface Detection Range: 10.3km Minimum Aerial Detection Range: 11.4km Kaga makes Großer Kurfurst look like a modest design. This ship be huge. Specifically, Kaga is very tall. Her flight deck is almost at the same height as the top of Yamato's rangefinders. Yeah. She's that big. This comes with some understandable complications. Aside from just being easier to hit, she's also very easy to spot. Kaga has a larger aerial detection range than she does a surface detection range. Stray float planes and wandering enemy fighters are likely to uncover her at inopportune times. This makes taking an aggressive position filled with more risk than it might in a Hiryu or Saipan, for example, especially given her less than exemplary speed and agility. Once Kaga is detected by surface vessels, disengaging is all but impossible. She doesn't have the speed or stealth to open up the distance and, short of sinking her pursuers, she can only hope to make use of island cover to make her escape. Anti-Aircraft Defense AA Battery Calibers: 127mm / 25mmAA Umbrella Ranges: 5.0km / 3.1kmAA DPS per Aura: 81 / 70 Kaga's anti-aircraft armament isn't up to the task of keeping her safe. To be fair, it's only slightly behind that of Hiryu, but even being up to par with that CV wouldn't be anything worth bragging about. Kaga's fighter cover is really necessary to keep her safe from enemy attack, taxing her already over burdened (and up tiered) fighters even more. This makes Air Groups Modification 2 look even more appealing to provide her fighters with improved endurance to continue to harass and shoot down approaching attack planes. Given her large aerial detection range, you can expect to be sniffed out early and for many opponents to try their luck at taking you out with a snipe. Worse, her large aerial detection range far exceeds even the maximum upgraded range of her AA batteries, necessitating the use of fighters to search for and clear out spotters to keep enemy surface ships from trying their luck with a long ranged pot shot or two. How to Increase your Joy The commander skills needed to optimize Kaga aren't anything special. Her AA power and secondaries aren't really worth spending skill points into to try and emphasize. This leaves us with a focus of skills to improve her aircraft performance and rearmament times -- skills that mesh well with most of the other IJN carriers, making Kaga a decent training ship once the minimums have been selected. As usual, we'll be racing to select a top tier skill first before doubling back. To this end, we'll be selecting one skill from each tier for our first 10pts spent. Start with Aircraft Servicing Expert -- Kaga's reload timer with her strike aircraft is quite long compared to other IJN Carriers. Follow this up with Torpedo Acceleration at the next tier. This will drop your effective range of your torpedo planes to 2.4km but it will increase the speed of your torpedoes to 53 knots which is hilarious. Next, take Torpedo Armaments Expertise. Finally, take Air Supremacy. Now we can double back through the lines. For your 11th point, take Dogfighting Expert. Few carriers benefit from this skill as enormously as Kaga does with her tier VI fighters. With that, your fighter squadrons are now a credible threat to a stock Hiryu and a mismanaged Saipan. From this point, you can take skills to taste. I would strongly recommend taking Concealment Expert with your next 4 skill points -- Kaga gets spotted often and this can really help mitigate that. If you choose to live dangerously (or decide that being spotted is a forgone conclusion), you can elect to take Basic and Advanced Fire Training to prop up her modest levels of flak and pretend that her secondaries are a serious threat -- which they aren't. Skills like Expert Rear Gunner and High Alert are great follow up choices for the more serious minded. She's hyooj. Overall Impressions Skill Floor: Simple / Casual / Challenging / Difficult Skill Ceiling: Low / Moderate / High / Extreme Carrier game play is largely unforgiving as a rule. That said, Kaga is about as suitable for a new player as any aircraft carrier is likely to be outside of tier IV. She's very auto-drop friendly and she can land a large number of bomb and torpedo hits, even if you don't know how to manually aim. In the hands of an expert, Kaga is easy-mode on a whole new level. I dread seeing the damage totals this thing will spit out when the veterans get a hold of her. She offers so much control of damage-over-time effects and high alpha strikes. The biggest hurdle will be proper management of her under-performing fighters while ensuring that her own strike craft deliver their payloads quickly and efficiently. Mouse's Summary: How did this get past testing in this form? The 2-2-1 load out is disgusting. The only real challenge with her is managing her under-strength fighter squadrons. The rest is easy mode. I'm sorry, Ranger. I am so sorry. Kaga is very powerful. Maybe too powerful. I get how Wargaming might considered her balanced. Her fighters, even when fully specialized, will never be match for her contemporaries. Kaga's strike squadrons take a long time to reload. Her dive bombers don't hit especially hard and, when manual dropped, aren't likely to set more than a single fire. She is awkward and she is slow to respond. She is clumsy. She's easily spotted even when she thinks she's being subtle and sneaky. And, of course, Kaga has really big guns that will only get her into trouble if she tries to flaunt them. I am getting high school flashbacks. This all goes towards making her 2-2-1 build acceptable at a cursory glance, which it really shouldn't be. I am not expecting the population at large to dominate with Kaga. Her performance is locked behind a skill wall. However, I do think attention needs to be justly placed on her potential. Facing off against a competently captained Kaga will be a nightmare. I had some serious open-Beta Midway flashbacks during my play-test sessions. It felt cruel how easy it was to stack floods, set up cross drops and largely abuse surface ships. I cringe to think why Wargaming decided this game play was unacceptable for Midway, yet perfectly cromulent for Kaga, especially when under performing ships like Ranger go without. Yet, Kaga won't paint any potatoes purple. She doesn't come with training wheels. Waste time setting up attacks and your team will melt around you. Botch a carrier snipe and you'll pay for it. Choose the wrong target and your planes will evaporate before placing their drop. Mishandle your fighters against a Saipan or HIryu and you'll be on your back foot from the word go. Kaga is easily a contender for the best carrier at her tier. She's hands down better than Ranger. On the attack, she's better than Saipan or Hiryu, but she's weaker than both defensively in terms of her fighters and also the vulnerability of the carrier herself. Is she overpowered? She definitely has facets -- or rather, one facet, that smacks of such. Would I Recommend? I should preface this with the following: Kaga isn't likely to convert any new carrier players to the fold. If you haven't enjoyed playing carriers before, I don't think she'll win you over. While the attack patterns of her dive bombers and torpedo planes are interesting, they are not some miracle fix to the disparate game play between carriers and surface vessels. For PVE Battles How well does the ship maintain profitability in Co-Op modes and how does she fare against bots? Very yes. Kaga can carry a PVE-match. Her damage output with the proper build is ridiculous. Snipe the enemy Kaga then farm damage at will. Her repair costs are just shy of a 34,000 credits while she'll gross between 75,000 to 100,000 easily on a decent match. For Random Battle Grinding This includes training captains, collecting free experience, earning credits and collecting signal flags from achievements. I could easily recommend Kaga to grind up through Random Battles, with the one provision that she only makes a suitable trainer for commanders with at least 10pts invested in aircraft carrier skills. Without these, she really struggles against anything short of a Strike Ranger. For Competitive Gaming:Competitive Gaming includes Ranked Battles and other skill-based tournaments. This also includes stat-padding. In competitive environments, a well commanded Kaga is a potential nightmare for the enemy team and a strong contender for one of the best carriers at her tier. In the hands of an expert, she can delete enemy ships at will. For Collectors:If you enjoy ship history or possessing rare ships, this section is for you. Kaga has an extensive history, including her famous end at the Battle of Midway. For World of Warships players, she also represents the first IJN carrier premium, which is something in of itself. She's also the second carrier premium ever. For Fun Factor:Bottom line: Is the ship fun to play? I generally dislike carrier game play so it was hard for me to enjoy my time with Kaga. Take that with the necessary pinch of salt. I didn't find anything particularly compelling about playing her. What's the Final Verdict?How would the ship rate on an Angry YouTuber scale of Garbage - Meh - Gud - Overpowered? GARBAGE- Grossly uncompetitive and badly in need of buffs.Mehbote - Average ship. Has strengths and weaknesses. Doesn't need buffs to be viable, but certainly not advantageous.Gudbote - A strong ship that has obvious competitive strengths and unique features that make it very appealing.OVERPOWERED - A ship with very clear advantages over all of its competitors and unbalancing the game with its inclusion.
  6. Every once in a while, for us average players, things fall in place. Again, like my Jean Bart match today, we lost. We came really, really close... except our DD, last ship afloat on our team, after capping a needed cap, turned towards the TBs coming at him instead of turning away. It happens. Back and forth match. I do believe this is my first ever K while driving a carrier. Hope you're all having a fun weekend.
  7. anonym_bleJN7gXeLqd

    Interesting placement of Kaga's bell.

  8. It may be a bit earlier to ask this but, how is the Kaga currently? I am in a bit of a mood to waste $60 on a virtual boat
  9. ShizuoYimato

    Elige tu equipo.. (CVs)

    Soy el unico de aqui que al ver un mensaje asi: se imagina cosas asi? xD Mi orgullo como animador no me dejaba tranquilo.. me decia "Debes hacerlo!!" asi que.. Quizas les haga una linda animacion despues xd....
  10. 44 torpedo bombers lost out of 72 torpedoes released, scoring a total of 17 hits for 59k damage. 22 dive bombers lost out of 20 bombs released, scoring a total of 10 hits for 17k damage. 17 attack planes lost out of 40 rockets launched, scoring a total of 26 hits for 10k damage. 5 floodings for a whopping 3100 damage. 9 of the 17 torpedo hits were against a Colorado, and I actually had our DD ask me how in the hell the 'Rado was getting hit by so many torpedoes and taking so little damage. Welcome to CVs post 8.1. Yeap. Kaga plane health is totally balanced against same-and-higher-tier AA. Looks like another ship to become little more than a Port Queen until she gets some love. Oh yeah, btw. We lost because I couldn't really contribute to striking meaningful targets. EDIT: I only sunk the Lightning because he was already nearly dead and strayed into a straddled torpedo drop I dumped on him while trying to, quite ineffectively, cross-drop him. The Alaska was killed by a single torpedo dropped directly from the rear after they had shredded 7 out of the 8 remaining planes I had left in the squadron.
  11. landedkiller

    What should I do?

    I am looking to get USS Alaska and am dissatisfied with the current CV rework. I only have 12k in free xp, but could get 239,000 free xp back and 5,000 doubloons for trading in Shokaku. I really like that Halloween camo, but the ship is unplayable now. In addition, I was thinking about trading in Saipan for doubloons 9,700 and keeping Enterprize and Kaga. The carriers just seem vastly different from 8.0 in these new hot fixes. I am looking to make a decision by update 8.1 or soon after. The practice will continue in co-op for me, only getting 20k damage max out of the carriers since the rework. So In the end trade in Shokaku for 239,000 free xp and 5,000 doubloons and hope to grind out the rest of the free xp or trade in Shokaku and Saipan for 14,700 doubloons and 239,000 free xp? Again this is for USS Alaska Which is confirmed for 1,000,000 and I only have 12,000 in free xp.
  12. So, look - I want UK CV's. Us CV players have been climbing up and down the walls doing exorcist head spins waiting on a new line. Hell, I still have my suggestions for RTS UK and German CV's in my signature, till I get some more done on my insane "If it can have a line, a premium or whatever I'mma suggest it here" thread. Which will include 1-2 UK lines, full lines, with odd tiers, and same with Germany. But with how this rework has gone and all, and what I've seen relating to their development - they need to be tossed on the back burner for a bit. First off, you lot need to get the rework sorted out, and I highly doubt, unless 8.2/3 is more than 6 months out, you will have this fixed by then. And even then, we, the players, need to get settled in on whatever the hell this finally looks like. Before you throw another line and whatever it will entail. Second, aside from you guys needing to crack open some history books, throwing in it's (incorrect unless your using the ice CV) level carpet bombing thing as flavour, is just not a good idea to do full line and base it around that and hope it works. Especially when it's a nation known more for using rockets and TB's off CV's not DB's. Third is we do not need another "well we didn't have enough data" fiasco like this rework. Now, if your going to end in the smaller version of the ice carrier for a line that carries some bigger aircraft that level bomb and/or carpet bomb, somewhat begrudgingly on the others that aren't mini ice island, fine. Current line I've seen on the other hand I'll fight you on that even after you release them. But test these 2 things on live server before you dedicate UK as having them. You've used premiums as test beds before, time to do it again. When it comes to level bombing in general, I can think of no better ship to test this with than Kaga. I am vehemently against IJN line having AP bombs, and nothing but AP bombs, but Kaga is one of the few ships that should really have the option. Add the option to have C6N's (as it lacks the correct B5N's) swap in place of the D4Y using the AP bombs in level attacks - which is exactly what happened in history as the B5N and C6N were the only ones that could carry them and use them only in a level bombing flight. I'd say have a torp swap out option but I feel that would likely get used far too little. But this can let us try it out and give feedback, and get data, and see if players actually respond to it well. What's better - an option on a CV you've already made your money on going unused because players aren't keen on it, or developing an entire line that goes unused because of it? When it comes to the carpet bombing idea, well, I've got 2 suggestions for that, both of which use some existing resources that can speed up dev time and get it out faster. The first, seeing as not only do you have a stock hull but the entire ship sitting unused now, is USS Shangri-La, an Essex class carrier, sporting PBJ-H's armed with say 4x 500 pound bombs per plane, and used also as the TB's, with P-51D's with rockets, at tier 8. Stock hull Essex, and tweaks you need to make her Shangri-La, then it's really just modeling the new planes. The other is what helped lead to that name being used, Hornet, a Yorktown Class, from the Doolittle raid. No TB's, but 4 B-25's with I think it was 4x 500 pound bombs, which you can have 16 on deck (number used) with 4 launching each time and either attacking in 1 run of 4 or 8 launch with 2 runs of 4. And F4F wildcat's - which Hornet had that day, just stored below decks that you can throw rockets on, as inaccurate as it would be, or have them serve as actual DB's. Shangri-La as a tier 8, Hornet as 6 (given it's not anywhere near as modified as E), and if you didn't want to change Kaga at all both could also test level bombing in general and see response as a one off ship before making a line based on the concept. Bonus points if you make them free xp/coal so more of us can get our hands on them to test, and so we have less reason to revolt at any changes cause technically free ship (unlike the GC). After what you've pulled with the rework, don't just double down on this UK CV "flavour" and push it out on yet another deadline. Sideline the line for now, give us 1 or 2 depending on what route you go here ships that are at least for now, one offs of the idea to prove that it can work, be fun, and be balanced. Because when AP was brought in on E sure, it was annoying as hell when it showed up, we said AP bombs needed to be nerfed, but it was one ship - it wasn't really a problem till you didn't nerf it but added it to the line. Iwaki Alpha proved smoke based cruisers could work, with some tweaks to make them a tad less op. Scharnhorst proved torps on a BB and undergunned BB's, a list of premium ships and evens that proved a future concept for a ship, a line, whatever, could work. Give us even just 1 ship as a demo of what you wanna do with UK's line so we can give you feedback so that your not adding nearly as much to the fire or starting anew one. There were 32 planned, 24 built, Essex class carriers. Aside from Essex as the tier representative, I think we can easily spare 1 or 6 of them as test beds for ideas, let alone Independence class, or better yet, another sidelined ship - Bogue, of which UK had 34 as Attacker and Ruler class, with TBF/M's that carried multiple bombs, or even Swordfish with numerous smaller ones. HMS Attacker, Arbiter, Hunter, or Reaper, with Seafires equipped with single bombs, or F4F's and Sea Hurricanes with rockets or bombs, and the TBF's or Swordfish with multiple bombs, or torpedoes, or rockets or being completely interchangeable. An open live server test, on a larger scale, of the concepts.
  13. DDG_53_John_Paul_Jones

    Saipan/Kaga Nerf NEEDED

    Nothing is more annoying than being placed in a match against a Saipan/Kaga. They are both broken when it comes to Air superiority/Attacks. Sure, the Saipan doesn't have great strike squad sizes but the Kaga is so OP. The strikes are monstrous, But that is semi-bearable. Now the Saipan is REALLY F****** BROKEN. So a person who played countless hours and isn't too [edited] when it comes to carriers gets run over by a strafe slinging Saipan. It can strafe out of dogfights without losing planes, It takes 6 planes to Kill 2 of the planes of ONE squadron, and if you are lucky the third plane of the squad. I personally own the Saipan, Great ship. However, I never play it because it is not fun- Even if the other team has a REALLY good carrier player and I still beat them. I can easily outmatch them by using the strafing technique or by throwing squads at them. Oh, I forgot to mention the Saipan can hold 22 fighters and 25 torpedo bombers. So I can essentially throw fighters away and only take 1 minute to get off the deck compared to the 1:30 of a ranger. Any comments Ideas? -
  14. FirstWooba

    Premium CV Refund

    Hello there. I've been playing WoWs for over 2 years now and as you can tell I rarely post. I've largely been happy with the game and overall development. I've long been one of the better CVs around (not the best but fair enough) and I've always enjoyed the gameplay. Because I enjoyed the gameplay I bought both the Saipan and the Kaga. I would like the option to exist for a refund, not in doubloons, but in the same currency people purchased their ships with. I went to work, I earned my money, and I took my time and decided what I wanted to purchase. The fact that my ship will still be named "Kaga" or "Saipan" does not mean that what I will have after the update is the same as what I initially purchased. I am hoping you choose to do the right thing here and offer a refund in cash to the card used to make the purchase. To stem the inevitable salt and [edited] comments, let me say I'm not angry about the rework. I get the need for it...I see it 20 times a day. Within the first minute of a battle I've usually already won the air struggle, which means that ~70% of the time my team also wins the match. I get why WG would seek to change it to suit their broader player base. I'm fine with that decision. What I need is for WG to "get that" once the CV rework goes live I no longer have what I paid for, and do the right thing. If I later decide I want another ship I'll buy it like I bought my previous ones, but for now a refund is in order, and it's the only moral course of action. Anything less is just greed. In the event that a refund option does not happen, I whole-heartedly promise that you'll never see another dime out of me, and I know for a fact I'm not alone. With a dwindling player base, does WG really want to risk losing loyal players just to steal a few dollars? It is theft btw. To continue to hold my funds while denying me the item I purchased under the conditions I purchased it is considered theft just about anywhere in the world, and is illegal anywhere but online apparently.
  15. anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT

    Kagafoo fun.

    My best match of the weekend. Oh, except it's Monday already?
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