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  1. - - - Trabajo en progreso - - - ¡¡¡LO ACTUALIZARÉ PRONTO, ESTÉN ATENTOS!!! Querido forista, en este tópico quiero sugerir la implementación del Árbol Tecnológico de la Armada de la República Argentina, el cual considero se debería presentar de la siguiente forma: Hago este tópico porque, si bien encontré en el foro la sugerencias de aplicación navíos particulares o de su conjunto regional, creo que en el caso argentino podemos hacer un esfuerzo por lograr un árbol concreto del nivel 1 al 10 con una gran cantidad y variedad de buques. Me encantaría trabajar en otras naciones, pero ya el caso argentino es bastante complejo y complicado. Para ver la agrupación de Buques Panamericanos pueden dirigirse al perfil de @Talleyranden WoWs o en Reporte de Batalla. En esta investigación he buscado a cada buque argentino y los he clasificado comparandolos a los implementados en WoWs. Para crear una idea matriz considere su tipo, su tier de aplicación y sus nombres según las clases correspondientes (algunos de estos últimos son sugerencias, con criterios realistas). La publicación de reseñas, fotografías y datos técnicos requieren de inversión de dinero en bigliografia, recorridos en museo y tiempo, pero si se presenta el suficiente interés de parte de la comunidad iré avanzando en las publicaciones de estas investigaciones. Caso contrario esto quedará aquí como una mera sugerencia. Dicho lo anterior, soy positivo en este aspecto; ya se ha implementado un buque argentino, el Nueve de Julio, y si generamos la suficiente difusión y este proyecto llama la atención de la comunidad y de la empresa, otros conocedores o investigadores potenciales se pueden sumar para compartirnos su interés, su crítica y sus datos, los que nos puedenpermitir reformular el conocimiento para así solicitar de manera formal su implementación en el juego. Información desactualizada Lista de navíos aptos para crear una Armada de la República Argentina, clasificados según tier, tipo, clase, nombre, valorización histórica y estado propuesto en wows: Por otro lado, he agregado un vídeo de prueba de presentación que tiene como objetivo describir las características técnicas y elaborar una reseña histórica del Acorazado Moreno de la Clase Rivadavia perteneciente a la Armada de la República Argentina. Hice hincapié en su Proyecto de Modernización no concretada en el año 1928 y en un modelo orientado para su implementación en el juego World of Warships a partir de un proyecto de Árbol Tecnológico de la Armada de la República Argentina. Se encuentra aquí http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/68410-arbol-tecnologico-de-la-armada-de-la-republica-argentina/page__pid__1846844#entry1846844
  2. "Independencia" Discussion tread Prolegomenon This is not the usual post when the proposer present his/her suggestion and is weighted by the rest. I want it to be more like an open discussion. Here there are a lot of very experienced forumers (is that a word?). Personally I suck with carriers. So I'm appealing to your better judgement to draft these carrier. I will put the historical part and my idea. But feel free to add or suggest anything. I will add it. The Historical Carrier This carrier was born as the Colossus class HMS Warrior in 1946. She was immediately transferred to the Canadian navy. But she lacked heathers. A very important feature in the Canadian waters as you may imagine. She was then returned to Britain. They used her for some time. Among the changes they made, the most important was to angle the deck 5º. She was present in the atomic test in Malden. In 1959 they sold her to Argentina. Argentina remove some Bofors and then add another ones. With these changes the displacement climb to 19.900 tons and the speed drop to 23 knots. The air component of the "Independencia" were 1) Vought "Corsair II" F4U-5, F4U-5N, and F4U-5NT: The corsair is already in game. In Lexington we have an inferior form. The "1D". The "5" is a even more capable aircraft. Is equipped with a much powerful engine witch translate in more heavy payload. In Midway we have a "corsair" but is not mentioned witch corsair it is. 2) North American SNJ-5 Texan: These were a small complement of training aircraft. 3) North American T-28P Trojan: An advanced trainer adapted for carrier operations. Truly nor the "Texan" or the "Trojan" are very interesting. On the other hand those F4U-5 looks far more appealing. So we could have a small aircraft loaded with F4U-5. These plane historically could carry rockects, or bombs. But there were no provision for torpedos. Neither the Texan or the Trojan could carry that. The Argentine Navy had used air-borne torpedoes but they never bought a torpedo bomber carrier based. There were nevertheless a small experiment. The Pucara, a Co-in indigenous aircraft, was tested as torpedo bomber. He was never used in carriers, but with such a short take off and roughed construction they will probably be adaptable. Implementation My idea was to implement these carrier as a sort of Saipan. Tier VIII. A small carrier, with a extremely small scuadron of planes (may be 4 or 5). But these aircraft will be faster, stronger and with more payload than the regular aircraft of the other ships. (As the F4U-5 are in comparison) Moreover the attack will be use all the aircraft of the squadron. (At least those that survive the AA). And they will launch their entire payload in a single attack and return to the carrier. (This is Kakaroto proposal) The "F4U-5s" tally this idea perfectly. They could work pretty fine with the rockets and also good with the bombs. But they are not torpedo- bombers. So, quoting admiral Farragut, "Damn the torpedoes!". I thought less dispense that weapon and focus in bombs. it will be more historical and really something different The load out I was thinking is 1 attack scuadron with rockets, 1 bomb scuadron with HE bombs and 1 bomb scuadron with AP bombs. These way we have an interesting and distinctive carrier. More over the ARA and the FAA were (still are) kinda famous by very low flying to make bombs attacks. So these detail could be implemented. Instead of the usual "dive" of the bombers. These Latinamerican aircraft will fly low and fast. Droping the bombs in a more horizontal style. These could make the bombs easier to hit but also prone to overpen. I understand that implement these mechanic may require some extra work from the developers, but I think is quite possible. If not possible, then just using the german style of attack will be sufficient. The next video is about an a4, a jet, but illustrate a bit of the style of attack I propose for Panam aircraft The torpedo alternative: If you don't want to dispense the torpedo there is a historical alternative. The Pucaras were Co-In aircraft develope in the 60s and used extensively by Argentina and Uruguay. And in small numbers by Colombia and Sry Lanka. They are turboprop and relative modern, so I'm reluctant to add them. But there performance is not spectacular for the game and they were tested to fire ww2 torpedoes. The mk XIII Another Aircraft: @COLDOWN propose to use non-naval indigenous aircraft. At first I was not really into the idea, but in my port there is a Graf Zeppelin with the deck fill with Focke Wulf ta-152. So, as far as I know, WG already took that step. A few good candidates to become "naval": I.Ae. 24 Calquín: WW2 cut the access to strategic material for Argentina. So they developed a sort of "Mosquito" with argentine woods. 100 aircraft produced. Length: 12 m (39 ft 4 in) Wingspan: 16.3 m (53 ft 6 in) Height: 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in) Gross weight: 6,500 kg (14,330 lb) Max takeoff weight: 7,200 kg (15,873 lb) Powerplant: 2 × Pratt & Whitney R-1830-SC-G Twin Wasp 780 kW (1,050 hp) each Maximum speed: 440 km/h (270 mph, 240 kn) Guns: 4× 12.7 mm browning ML or DL or 20 mm Hispano-Suiza 804 cannon (later variant) 12 x 75 mm 60 lb (27 kg) rockets (Mk VI) on the later variant 800 kg (1,800 lb) bombs on both early and late variant I.Ae. 30 Ñancú: This is more like a "heavy fighter". Full metal. It was only tested. Argentina could not develop simultaneously a jet and a piston fighter. Yet it was a very interesting design. 1 prototipe produced. Similat to the "Hornet" Length: 11.52 m (37 ft 10 in) Wingspan: 15 m (49 ft 3 in) Height: 5.16 m (16 ft 11 in) Gross weight: 7,600 kg (16,755 lb) Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Merlin 604 V-12, 1,342 kW (1,800 hp) each Armament 6 × 20 mm cannons 1 × 250 kg bomb (under fuselage) 10 × rockets (under wings) There are also jets ("IAE 37", "Pulqui 1" and "2") and imported aircraft (Fiat G-55, Spitfire mk IX, etc). So with out no more ideas for now I expect you feedback. Thank you.