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Tedster_ posted a topic in New Player GuidesMy current "shoot AP at just-about-everything" policy only really works if you REALLY know how to aim. Aiming comes from experience and practice. Unfortunately, they disabled training rooms. One of the best ways to learn to aim was to put some AFK bots on the other side in the ships you wanted to learn to shoot, then sail over and shoot them from different angles in different spots. Then you could do another match and tell the bots to move but not shoot and get some practice leading targets. For now, I guess co-op's could be used for this purpose, but the costs for little gain could make it uneconomical at higher teirs. But when you learn to land AP, the results are devastating. Here's an example of how AP can quickly change what looks like it could be a bad situation (spoilered because large 1440p picture): That's a 2/3 HP Iowa removed from the game in the blink of an eye by a battleship three tiers lower than it, partially because of good aim and partially because of a mistake on the Iowa's part that I forced him to make. Notice I landed 6 "hits to citadel" with that salvo. I will now answer the question, "What is a Citadel?" The "Citadel" of a ship can best be described by this picture (credit goes to the original artist in the upper right): The "Citadel" spaces are the areas highlighted in blue and aren't scribbled over in red with my bad@paint skillz. They are the magazine and boiler/machinery areas of the ship. NOTE: This guide assumes you are in a Battleship and need to make your shots count, as you won't have many, and that you have a basic idea of how to lead targets and land your shots where you want to. While good aim can help, at range your guns will often bounce unless you hit a flat on broadside shot versus another battleship. Cruisers can be citadel'd at longer ranges by BB caliber guns, but are more maneuverable and can dodge your rounds. A Battleship's guns can also have bad dispersion, so I recommend mounting this modernization on all battleships that can mount it (if you don't have modernizations unlocked, you need to reach account level 6): It is available on IJN Battleships from tier 5 and up (as Gun Fire Control System Modification 1), and tier 9 and 10 US Battleships. Now to the guide. DD's: Destroyers actually don't have citadel areas defined for them as a survivability buff they received after 0.3.0, and thus most BB AP rounds will only do 1-1.3k dmg per shell. I recommend shooting HE at their engine area (under the smokestacks) or attempt to hit the deck with the HE to break guns, torp launchers, and more. I am not going to post a picture highlighting the citadel areas as there are none to aim for. CL/CA's: I definitely still recommend shooting for the engines when flat on with BB's. Artificial angle matters more now with the new AP changes that came in 0.3.1, some cruisers can ricochet BB rounds that hit the belt at sharp angles now, so be careful. if you are facing a cruiser at a sharp angle, attempt to punch through its bow or stern instead of ricocheting off the belt. Battlecruisers (currently Myogi and Amagi only). note that these are some of the ships that produce the most inconsistent results with AP in regards to consistantly landing Citadel hits on them. BB's. this is the most complicated part, as artificial armor angle DOES matter. A lot of the angle advice applies to cruisers and battlecruisers as well. For the most part now, AP will straight up bounce if you shoot at an angle. Yamato is interesting in that it has these angled plates around the rear magazine, which you can punch through at close range. I have highlighted them below. Carriers: Now, some tips on avoiding getting AP'd: NEVER sail broadside to the enemy if you can avoid it. This presents the largest citadel target area to the enemy, and if they are competent, WILL punish you for it with shots into your boilers. the best course to sail is either towards or away from the enemy at an angle. this allows you to turn to dodge shots and also bait shots into your angled side armor, while still keeping all guns on target. Always be changing the range. This makes it harder for the enemy to get a good lead on you. Zig-zagging can also help, but be careful about being too predictable. Competent enemies will see your pattern and adjust for it. It works best in ships that can change direction quickly and at range. This also helps avoid long range torps aimed using the lead indicator. NEVER stop moving unless to dodge torps. A running Alpha joke is "Stopping increases accuracy ... for the enemy. [insert bad laugh track here]" it doesn't help your accuracy, but makes you an easier target. Hard-stopping to avoid torpedoes that you see launch is a viable tactic if they are using the auto-lead to launch them, but the pros and cons must be weighed of the individual situation as to whether it is worth it (and can result in some funny situations when the stars align. video in spoiler below, which also includes an example of aiming with AP at close range, though it may look funny due to replay bugs). Changing speed is a viable tactic to throw off aim and torps at long range, but stopping is a bad idea. Meanwhile, a whole different guide could be written on torpedo dodging, so I will not go into further detail here. Lastly, some random notes and thoughts on the 0.3.1 mechanics from my experiences: If shooting Battlecruisers and Battleships, AP will almost always bounce if you shoot at an angled target. Either switch targets, hold your shot for a better angle, or load HE). some cruisers with thicker belts (such as Senjo/Zao with its 175mm+ belt can also bounce rounds too) You can't really one shot DD's anymore with AP. I've started switching to HE at times to shoot them. Cruisers are a bit more iffy now, they can be citadel'd at higher angles than BB's, and can also be citadel'd by underwater hits. The Standards (the 21 kt US BB's) seem to be a pain to citadel for me with anything short of the 16"/50. North Carolina and up are extremely vulnerable when broadside. always mind your angle when captaining a T8-10 US BB, especially when fighting multiple targets. Ranger apparently got deck armor (and is harder to citadel at range now). IJN CV's can be citadel'd by shooting the boilers. Fires are still stupidly strong IMO, and any ship that can keep you burning should be top priority if it shows you side, such as Cleveland, Mogami, or Des Moines. I will prioritize these over enemy Battleships as they are a far bigger threat with the current fire mechanics.
There have been countless times where I've aimed at a ship and it locks on to the ship behind it. Then no matter how much I aim at my desired target, the lock-on sticks as long as the undesired ship, the one I'm locked onto somehow, is just about within frame. Happens a lot when I'm trying to torp too. Is there something that I'm missing in order to lock-on to my desired target every time or is the lock-on actually broken at times?
Just another little thing I wanted to ask about here on the forums, see if anyone knew of anything good to look at or had some advice. Obviously I know (for the most part) how aiming works in ships, I picked up how to lead targets and whatnot, but i've always had a bit of an "Annoying itch" in my aim game... When the target you are aiming at is more than 12 KM away and is traveling in a weird angle from your position. Sometimes I even have trouble landing any shots if they are bow-on or stern-on from 16 km or further out. I say this because I recently obtained the Yamato (first ever tier 10 in ships, and thus i now have at least 1 tier 10 in all three titles). And after the first two battles, which i did 100k+ damage in, I faceplanted on the aim. I will admit this is also half the reason I stalled out on the Iowa, I feel HORRIBLE aiming at super long ranges, because after a certain point the simple "Lead the target" tricks taught to newer players just fall apart. Your target could do a 90 degree turn by the time your shells are halfway there. I would rather do well in such a good ship than make myself seem like an utterly inconsistent dingaling - granted 1/3rd of the time I already am like that. I did setup my Yamato with a stealth build to allow myself to close some distance in this situations, but that has only helped so much. I'd appreciate any resources or advice here, and thanks.