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  1. *Gasp* Clickbait!! I know I know, yet another Iowa vs. Yamato thread? But this time, it's not your typical 1v1 **** measuring contest. I have some interesting historical context that can hopefully spur some useful discussion, and perhaps even replicate it in training room since in this particular scenario I believe the game has all the requisite ships. What I'm talking about is "Bull's Run" during the Battle of Leyte Gulf on October 25-26, 1944, where upon realizing that he had left the San Bernadino Strait unguarded, Admiral Halsey belatedly dispatched Task Force 34, and more specifically formed Task Group 34.5 lead by Rear Admiral Badger centered around the Iowa and New Jersey back to the San Bernadino Strait in a belated attempt to protect the American beachhead and relieve Taffy 3, which had slugged it out with Admiral Kurita's Center Force. Note that TG 34.5 was only dispatched on 1622 on October 25, 1944, well after the surface action between Taffy 3 and Center Force had concluded. Had Admiral Kurita loitered around the San Bernadino Strait for a few more hours before withdrawing, it's possible or even likely that what remains of the Center Force would have clashed with TG 34.5 in the morning hours of October 26, 1944. Navweaps has the order of battle which lists the ship composition of each force. TG 34.5 Battleships: 2 Iowa-class (Iowa, New Jersey) Cruisers: 3 Cleveland-class (Biloxi, Vincennes, Miami) Destroyers: 8 Fletcher-class (Owen, Miller, The Sullivans, Tingey, Hickox, Hunt, Marshall, Lewis Hancock) Total: 2 battleships, 3 cruisers, 8 destroyers Center Force (as of Oct. 26, 1944) Battleships: 1 Yamato-class (Yamato), 1 Nagato-class (Nagato), 2 Kongo-class (Kongo, Haruna) Cruisers: 1 Myoko-class (Haguro), 1 Mogami-class (Kumano), 1 Tone-class (Tone), 2 Agano-class (Yahagi, Noshiro) Destroyers: 1 Shimakaze-class (Shimakaze), 6 Yugumo-class (Hayashimo, Akishimo, Kishinami, Okinami, Hamanami, Fujinami), 4 Kagero-class (Nowaki, Urakaze, Isokaze, Yukikaze) Total: 4 battleships, 5 cruisers, 11 destroyers Note that by the morning of Oct. 26, Center Force had already lost Suzuya, Chokai, and Chikuma, hence their absence from the list above, while Kumano was heavily damaged with a blown-off bow, so realistically you could count Kumano out of the battle. Yahagiand Noshiro were Agano-class light cruisers that mount 3x2 152 mm guns with a rather slow rate of fire of 6 RPM, making their value as surface combatants questionable. In fact, they fill the roles of destroyer flotilla leader. Finally, it's unclear how many Japanese destroyers had already expended their torpedoes during the Battle off Samar, but at least some of them did. With these composition of forces in mind, how do you think the battle would have turned out? Personally, despite the numerical disadvantage, I consider the American force as the likely victor. But before you start leveling accusations of American bias at me, let me explain my reasoning. Center Force had expended a considerable amount of ammunition, both shells and torpedoes, against Taffy 3 during the Battle of Samar the day before. Furthermore, the Japanese crew would no doubt have been very fatigued from a day of relentless combat, whereas the American crew of TG 34.5 would be comparatively well-rested and probably have a full stock of ammunition. Furthermore, the American force would have approached the San Bernadino Strait from the east, thus having the sun to their advantage. Now, the fire control and automatic gunlaying of the American ships have been often-cited advantages (both Iowa and New Jersey were equipped with the Mark 8 FCR), and I think when all these operational factors are taken into account, the American force would more likely emerge as the victors. However, I won't deny some of the advantages that the Japanese would have in this battle; numerical superiority isn't something that can be easily written off especially in capital ships, and I believe there was still an ample supply of torpedoes. Speaking of which, aside from Tone and the Aganos, I believe you can replicate this scenario in a training room, though the number of destroyers would likely have to be cut down (and can you imagine 10 Yugumo/Kagero all running torpedo reload mod?) If someone want to try and set a scenario like this up it can be a fun little exercise, especially when Cleveland finally moves to T8. Some pictures of the two forces on Oct. 25-26, 1944. The New Jersey (BB-62) prepares to turn to port, following the Iowa (BB-61) on 26 October 1944 Yamato and a heavy cruiser, possibly Tone or Chikuma, in action in the battle off Samar Content Moderated by HeadlockMvnky
  2. Cpt_JM_Nascimento

    One dream i had today

    I had an interesting dream today. I was playing with Yamato (but the map was a river? uat!? at least was a really large one, probalbly the Yellow river? Because it was yellow?) and it was the end of the battle, the only way the team could win was if i survived, then 2 torpedo bomber squads from a japanese carrier came after me. Because i was in low HP i beached in panic (maybe not... beaching in a river with a ship that weights 70,000 tons is not that hard), then i was looking for the available consumables to plan a strategy to deal with the air attack, i saw there was one def. fire consumable left that i used as quick as possible, the CV reaction was to drop from really far away and the attack missed, from a total of 8 planes i took down 5 before the drop and 2 after. So i got 7 plane ribbons for that wave, but when i saw the total number in the ribbon it showed 75 planes destroyed!!! I got in first in the team and the only achivement i got was that new one that i didn't decorate yet. But you are probably asking yourself: wouldn't that be too OP? Nope! "Yamato's defensive fire shared the same slot that uses the repair party. And before people go nuts thinking that i'm trying to find a creative way to propose a new gimmick [edited] i'm not, that's why i'm using the off-topic. I just want to share this dumb dream, plain and simple Also no... i was addicted to play WoWs back in 2016, not nowadays that i avoid the game quite a lot, less clan battles.
  3. volutionseba

    The confused musashi

    Hello captains! Well, I have a serious confusion so I'll like to share this with you (sorry about my english): In about 2-3 week's more I'll buy yamato's little sister: musashi... the point it's I'm no expert on a 405mm caliber battleship, so I asked for an opinion to some people and friends: that was worse! some told me 2 arm musashi only with secondaries, others to make her a sniper, others to go "[edited]" in every battle with her... the only thing that all agreed: AA on this ship sucks. the point is this: every person I asked told me a different variant of the commanders skills and the upgrades so the question is ... ¿What's your favorite configuration and play style for musashi and/or yamato?
  4. Just thought people might enjoy seeing some ships in possibly less known movies that they might then be interested in watching. (SPOILER ALERT!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdQtwZDkGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ79i11JSnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOE3GuFbQWM&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qtq6LmuOrY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RjuNYnA7c&t=21s
  5. 1 Yamato vs 2 Both sunk in front of me. Feel my Yammy's wrath!!!!!
  6. Today's Replay Breakdown is brought to you by the letter "C", for the huge Carry you are about to watch. Enjoy!
  7. And also, Montana "Monty"?
  8. Bueno gente, es oficial, les traigo un fragmento, que cubre los 21mins finales del documental de cuyo nombre pueden leer en el título del video. La traducción directa del japonés al español y el timeo/subeo, fue laburado enteramente por mi persona, con el fin de aportarles un buen material audiovisual de lo que fue el final del mayor acorazado del mundo. Si todo marcha bien, laburaré (y refinaré unas cuantas cosas) el documental al completo y lo subiré "cuando sea el momento". Por ahora, disfruten de esta muestra.
  9. I mean, that is Yamato right?!! And of course, I lost the battle because of this.......
  10. MitoUchiha

    Yamato Buff

    So apparently, according to Notser, Yamato will be receiving a buff to its turret traverse. Nothing else is known about the buff, but I for one think it's fair. What does everyone else think?
  11. Landsraad

    Ship Anatomy Question

    Something that's bugged me for a while about the Yamato and Musashi that I can't find a decent answer for. Under some of the aircraft handling equipment on the stern are these two big cut-outs that lead to what looks like it could be a big flat hatch of some kind. Does anyone know what those hatches are for? I'm tempted to say launch or perhaps even mini-sub stowage (subs confirmed!), but I guess maybe you could possibly fit a floatplane in there? It's in an awkward position if that's the case. Are they even hatches? Is this just some structural idiosyncrasy the two ships shared?