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  1. jo_jo_nerd

    Italian Battleship Lineup

    I am very excited for this line... although I don't think the T10 they picked is particularly accurate... It is General Ferrati's "G" series designs from 1915. I understand that C. Colombo is supposed to be a modernized variant... but the real design had a 270 mm belt.
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    Armored Cruisers - Proposal

    Well, because realistically the ships had smaller secondaries... along with the large ones.
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    Armored Cruisers - Proposal

    Hey everyone, Armored (or armoured) cruisers have been on my mind ever since the addition of super cruisers to the game. My vision of armored cruisers would practically be super cruisers at a lower tier. Here it is! Tier III Cruisers Maryland - American Survivability 34,180 HP Main Guns (2x2) 8 inch guns 14s reload 11.1 km range Secondary Guns (14x1) 6 inch guns 10s reload 5.5 km range (18x1) 3 inch guns 5s reload 4 km range Main Belt 6 inches Maneuverability 22.4 knots 10.8s rudder shift Concealment 10.2 km sea 5.5 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair USS Maryland (ACR-8) was a Pennsylvania class armored cruiser. Based on her powerful secondary complement, in WoWs it would only be fair to give her powerful secondary build. I know low tier secondary builds generally aren't worth it, but they can still come in handy especially because of how often you fight at 4 to 6 km in T3 battles. You will see powerful secondary weapons on most of these Armored cruisers. Warrior - British Survivability 33,210 HP Main Guns (6x1) 9.2 inch guns 16s reload 10.9 km range Secondary Guns (4x1) 7.5 inch guns 11s reload 6 km range Main Belt 6 inches Maneuverability 23 knots 11.8s rudder shift Concealment 12.5 km sea 5.9 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair HMS Warrior was the first of her class of armored cruisers of the Royal Navy. She carried six 9.2 inch guns in single mountings, Her secondary armament consisted of four 7.5 inch guns in single mountings, with these guns in WoWs, she would have the largest secondary guns in the entire game. And due to her heavy shells, 380 lbs, her reload time would be slightly longer to balance her out with the other armored cruisers. Jules Michelet - French Survivability 30,100 HP Main Guns (2x2) 7.6 inch guns 12s reload 13.1 km range Secondary Guns (12x1) 6.5 inch guns 11s reload 5 km range Main Belt 6 inches Maneuverability 22.5 knots 9.8s rudder shift Concealment 9.6 km sea 4.9 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Jules Michelet would be a very unique cruiser in WoW, similar to the low tier French Battleships, her main guns fire shells at an extremely high velocity, 940 m/s. And along with her impressive main guns, she has a powerful secondary armament. Along with her high velocity guns, she is stealthier than the other armored cruisers. Tier IV Cruisers Memphis - Americans Survivability 35,005 HP Main Guns (2x2) 10 inch guns 14s reload 12.1 km range Secondary Guns (16x1) 6 inch guns 9s reload 5.5 km range (22x1) 3 inch guns 5s reload 4 km range Main Belt 5 inches Maneuverability 22.2 knots 12.1s rudder shift Concealment 11.8 km sea 5.8 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Previously USS Tennessee, she was renamed after it was determined that only battleships could receive the name of a state. She was renamed USS Memphis after her fit which gave her an extra complement of guns and a new cage mast. In practical terms, she was a complete improvement over the previous Pennsylvania class of armored cruisers. In WoWs she should be modeled in the refitted form. Defence - British Survivability 33,360 HP Main Guns (2x2) 9.2 inch guns 12s reload 12.7 km range Secondary Guns (10x1) 7.5 inch guns 11s reload 6 km range (16x1) 3 inch guns 4s reload 4 km range Main Belt 6 inches Maneuverability 23 knots 12.2s rudder shift Concealment 12.6 km sea 6.6 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Like the previous class of armored cruisers, the Minotaur class armored cruisers carried 9.2 inch guns, but in a much more conventional layout, and more secondary batteries. Like Memphis she is also an upgrade over her predecessor. And again, a very powerful secondary armament. Edgar Quinet - French Survivability 32,320 HP Main Guns (2x2)(10x1) 7.6 inch guns 12s reload 13.9 km range Secondary Guns (20x1) 2.6 inch guns 4s reload 4 km range Main Belt 5.9 inches Maneuverability 23 knots 11.7s rudder shift Concealment 12.6 km sea 6.6 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Hydroacoustic Search Edgar Quinet carried a very heavy broadside for her class and time, she could fire nine of her main guns at once. She carried 5.9 inches of armor on her belt, and could maintain a speed a 23 knots even though she had 6 smoke stacks... Rurik - Russian Survivability 34,630 HP Main Guns (2x2) 10 inch guns 15s reload 11.7 km range Secondary Guns (4x2) 8 inch guns 12s reload 6 km range (20x1) 4.7 inch guns 7s reload 3.5 km range Main Belt 6 inches Maneuverability 21 kts 12.9s rudder shift Concealment 11.6 km sea 6.1 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Sometimes considered to be one of the most powerful armored cruisers ever built, Rurik was a cruiser designed and built by Vickers for the Imperial Russian navy in 1905. She was the pinnacle of British armored cruisers design in 20th century. In WoWs she will likely be extremely powerful based because she is Russian, but who knows? Maybe since she's on the side of the Whites she's going to be normal. Blucher - German Survivability 37,180 HP Main Guns (6x2) 8.3 inch guns 14s reload 10.8 km range Secondary Guns (8x1) 5.9 inch guns 8s reload 6.5 km range (16x1) 3.5 inch guns 5s reload 4 km range Main Belt 7.1 inches Maneuverability 25.4 kts 10.5s rudder shift Concealment 10.6 km sea 6.9 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Hydroacoustic Search Blucher was the last armored cruiser built by the Imperial German Navy and she was a monster. Designed to counter the plans for the first British Battlecruiser she displaced roughly 17,500 tons and carried a the typical layout of German Battleships at the time. I would reckon Wargaming makes her similar to a German Battleship, secondaries and all. San Giorgio - Italian Above: San Giorgio as completed in 1910 Under: San Giorgio after her modernization in 1940 Survivability 1910: 28,400 HP or 1940: 28,700 HP Main Guns (2x2) 10 inch guns 12s reload 10.4 km range Secondary Guns Original: (4x2) 7.5 inch guns 10s reload 4.5 km range (18x1) 3 inch guns 5s reload 3 km range 1940 version: (4x2) 7.5 inch guns 10s reload 4.5 km range (4x2) 4 inch guns 5s reload 3.5 km range Main Belt 7.9 inches Maneuverability 23 kts 10.3s rudder shift Concealment 9.8 km sea 5.9 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair I think San Giorgio modernized form would be more fair at T4 because of her more powerful AA complement and more modern form especially because San Giorgio only displaced 11,000 tons but personally, I think the original form looks better. Georgios Averof - Greek (Pan-European) Survivability 27,120 HP Main Guns (2x2) 9.2 inch guns 11s reload 13.1 km range Secondary Guns (4x2) 7.5 inch guns 9s reload 8 km range (8x1) 3 inch guns 4s reload 4 km range Main Belt 7.9 inches Maneuverability 23.5 kts 9.9s rudder shift Concealment 10.1 km sea 6.2 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Ship Repair Hydroacoustic Search Georgios Averof was the pride of Hellenic navy, she was commissioned in 1911 and wasn't decommissioned until 1952. She fought in the Balkan War, WW1 and WW2, and became a very successful ship. She would be the first Greek ship in WoWs. I would also like to see a new type of secondary concept with these ships, because like pre-dreadnoughts, they had twin main armaments, and wargaming would never implement different caliber main armament, so it would make more sense to see long ranged (secondary main armaments) and short ranged (real secondary weapons) secondaries. PS - I got the super cruiser formula, so I plugged them in. Thanks for checking out my proposal, some insight below would be greatly appreciated, I am looking forward to armored cruisers in WoWs!
  4. jo_jo_nerd

    British BB Split - Battlecruisers

    Thanks man. I would hate to see Wargaming skip this but it may happen... Anyway I forgot to give the BCs engine boost in my proposal I should have done that. I just saw a lot a similarities between UK heavy cruisers and battleships, and I thought that Light cruisers and BC could be very similar, things like AP only but idk man, works either way.
  5. jo_jo_nerd

    Italian Battleships Line Proposal

    Oh wow, I never visit the EU forum, but I see this is identical to my proposal... except they designed created it. That's exactly what I would like to see in game!
  6. jo_jo_nerd

    Florida Nerf

    And its sad because the USN battleships were very effective ships in real life, and they continuously proved it throughout the second world war... unlike Russian battleships...
  7. jo_jo_nerd

    Florida Nerf

    Florida was never even OP though, the ship only had 2 good things going for it, many guns in a good layout and a big healthpool. It was going to be a fair ship at T7....
  8. jo_jo_nerd

    Florida Nerf

    This was posted on the WoWs Development Blog 5 days ago. They nerfed this ship to death. Wargaming just removed everything good about the Florida and now the entire set of new American BBs are going to be terrible. This is really disappointing to me. What are your thoughts on this?
  9. jo_jo_nerd

    Kansas or North Carolina(BB line split debate)

    Kansas is just a mess, Minnesota and Vermont on the other hand got armor buffs, now their torpedo bulges and side plating are 38 mm VS 32 mm before.
  10. jo_jo_nerd

    European Cruisers - Line Proposal

    It could definitely work, but it would have 27,000 HP at T9. I personally see De Zeven Provencien as a much better fit for T9 but who knows what wargaming will do, they are very unpredictable.
  11. jo_jo_nerd

    European Cruisers - Line Proposal

    If you look at my line, the spanish could definitely finish the line alone. There obviously would be a couple of paper ships and if someone can find a spanish paper ship for T10 then we're Golden. But from my knowledge, there is no European ship that would fit into the T10 spot as a heavy cruiser or light cruiser, excluding super-cruisers. And yes, I utilized 4 ships from the same ship classes, but thats because of their significant differences. But if you look at the French Cruiser line Wargaming utilized two ships of very similar designs (Martel and Louis). Cannarias and Beleares would stretch this, but could definitely work. As for Blas De Lezo and Mendez Nunez, those ships are completely different because of Mendez's rebuild as an AA cruiser.
  12. jo_jo_nerd

    European Cruisers - Line Proposal

    Tre Konor is definitely not suitable for T8 let alone T10, she carries 2.8 inches of armor around the belt and only had seven 6 inch guns. Even if she were given radar she would not be able to compete with other ships like Zao or Hindenburg. And I highly doubt that wargaming will add more than 3 nations into a single "Pan" line. It will either be all spanish, or spanish and Dutch. The dutch do not have enough cruisers and plans to make a full line. And I actually think De Zeven Provincien is a great choice for T8 and maybe even T9. She could play like Friesland. Or wargaming could put her into the Pan-American cruiser line as BAP Almirante Grau.
  13. Disclaimer: I like criticism to make my proposals better but if I feel like one of your comments isn't quite correct or doesn't make sense, I will argue against it, just to be clear. Otherwise, I love your tweaks and changes, it really helps me think about the balance in-game and what not. Like the EU Destroyer line, this line will be made up of one nations ships, the Spanish cruisers only. So I now present to you... European Cruisers! Tier II Blas De Lezo Sorry for the poor image quality, this was the only line drawing I could find of a Blas De Lezo class cruiser. Main Guns (6x1) 6 inch guns 9 sec reload / 6.6 rpm 10.1 km range Main Belt 3 inches Maneuverability 29 knots 8 sec rudder shift time Concealment 9.1 km sea 4 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Blas De Lezo seemed like the prime contender for tier 2 based on her armament, speed and armor. Although she does fall onto the heavier side of T2 cruisers, I'm still not entirely sure if Wargaming determines HP proportionately to displacement but they can always tweak the HP randomly to balance it out. Also in real life Blas De Lezo had torpedo tubes built into the hull, I'm sure wargaming will ignore also them to balance it out. Tier III Navarra This would probably be the difference between hull A and hull B Main Guns (6x1) 6 inch guns 9 sec reload / 6.6 rpm 11.5 km range Main Belt 3 inches Maneuverability 25.5 knots 8.7 sec rudder shift time Concealment 10.6 km sea 6.1 km air Consumables Damage Control Party You might be asking why Navarra is at a higher tier than Blas De Lezo even though the ladder was Navarra's successor. I did this because I think Navarra's modernization would make her too much for T2, and Wargaming could just add Navarra into the game without her 1936 rebuild but I would really enjoy seeing Navarra in all her glory as a modernized ship, so there she is at T3. Tier IV Mendez Nunez Main Guns (8x1) 4.7 inch guns 6 sec reload / 10 rpm 12.3 km range Torpedoes (2x3) 21 inch torpedo tubes 80 sec reload / 0.75 rpm 8 km range 60 kts 6,200 Max Damage Main Belt 3 inches Maneuverability 29 knots 8 sec rudder shift time Concealment 9.5 km sea 5.1 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Hydroacoustic Search A Blas De Lezo class cruiser, Mendez Nunez survived the Spanish Civil War unlike her sister. In 1944, she was reconstructed into an Anti Aircraft cruiser. Mendez Nunez is an extremely modern pick for t4 especially because of her powerful AA complement. I would love to see this ship in game, especially with her triple super firing guns. Tier V Almirante Cervera Main Guns (3x2)(2x1) 6 inch guns 8 sec reload / 7.5 rpm 12.1 km range Torpedoes (4x3) 21 inch torpedo tubes 100 sec reload / 0.6 rpm 8 km range 60 kts 6,200 Max Damage Main Belt 3 inches Maneuverability 33 knots 9.1 sec rudder shift time Concealment 9.9 km sea 5.1 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Hydroacoustic Search Another strong pick for its tier. Almirante Cervera carries a powerful armament of eight 6 inch guns that fire 7.5 rounds every minute, although she does have an unusual gun layout and practically no armor around the turrets, incapacitated guns would be very common. Tier VI Galicia Main Guns (2x2)(2x3) 6 inch guns 8.5 sec reload / 7 rpm 14.8 km range Torpedoes (2x3) 21 inch torpedo tubes 60 sec reload / 1 rpm 10 km range 65 kts 7,540 Max Damage Main Belt 3 inches Maneuverability 37 knots 10.6 sec rudder shift time Concealment 12.1 km sea 6.6 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Hydroacoustic Search Fighter/Spotter Known as the Light Cruiser Project 124, Galicia (sorry for the name, I'm not sure what Spanish cruisers are named after) will be very similar to the USN cruiser Dallas in terms of fire power, although she receives 6 torpedo tubes. Galicia is very fast, she travels at 37 knots and 38.8 with the sierra mike signal and she has good maneuverability for her size. Tier VII Beleares Main Guns (4x2) 8 inch guns 10 sec reload / 6 rpm 16.6 km range Torpedoes (4x3) 21 inch torpedo tubes 75 sec reload / 0.8 rpm 10 km range 69 kts 7,540 Max Damage Main Belt 2 inches Maneuverability 33 knots 13.6 sec rudder shift time Concealment 12.1 km sea 7.1 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Hydroacoustic Search Baleares was the second cruiser of Cannarias class Heavy Cruisers built by the Spanish Navy. In WoWs Beleares would be fit right into T7 next to Algerie and Zara. I hadn't realized how incredibly weak her armor was, so to compensate I gave her a 10 second reload. I think wargaming would be able to implement the torpedo tubes in real launchers above the water like they did with Zara because Beleares's torpedoes were launched from holes in the hull. Tier VIII Cannarias Main Guns (4x2) 8 inch guns 10 sec reload / 6 rpm 17.2 km range Torpedoes (4x3) 21 inch torpedo tubes 60 sec reload / 1 rpm 10 km range 72 kts 7,540 Max Damage Main Belt 4.5 inches Maneuverability 32 knots 13.4 sec rudder shift time Concealment 12.1 km sea 7.6 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Hydroacoustic Search Ship Repair For balance reasons I decided to give Beleares a 4.5 inch main belt even though that is completely fictional, I just think it will help the player. Same case as Beleares with the torpedoes, maybe they could replace 4 of those lifeboats with the launchers. Tier IX Madales Main Guns (4x3) 8 inch guns 12 sec reload / 5 rpm 17.8 km range Torpedoes (2x3) 21 inch torpedo tubes 60 sec reload / 1 rpm 10 km range 78 kts 10,700 Max Damage Main Belt 5.9 inches Maneuverability 36 knots 11.4 sec rudder shift time Concealment 12.9 km sea 7.6 km air Consumables Damage Control Party Hydroacoustic Search Ship Repair Fighter/Spotter This is Project 138 Version A Tier X ?? I could not find any information on a cruiser suitable for T10, there were a number that would classify as super cruisers like these: These ships carry 11 inch guns and 12 inch guns respectively. They wouldn't make the cut as cruisers. Let me know in the thread if you could find any information on a possible Spanish T10 cruiser for this line. Thanks!
  14. jo_jo_nerd

    Pan-American Battleships?

    hahahaha my bad I meant a Pan-European Cruiser line
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    Pan-American Battleships?

    I can't find the stream... Can you send me the link to it? Nvm I found it
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