LancerUlysses

We're going to leave this one open, as long as we do not have to intervene too much because folk like to attack each other personally or otherwise violate the Forum rules.

The discussion is fine here as long as it does not continue to stray into posters attacking each other. Take the hint, Captains.

Given the nature of the OP's question, I think we can safely walk away from this one. Personal attacks and in fact arguing the merits of personal attacks is not a constructive topic in this venue. This topic is closed to further responses.

Just a reminder, California, like all other ships that are currently in testing, are Works in Progress, subject to feedback and changes as the developers continue to figure out the best course of action with the ship. While it does make for interesting discussion, please keep this in mind. Also, for the most part this discussion has proceeded with a reasonable amount of respect between the posters. Let's keep it that way. Thanks!

Captains, There is a lot of food for thought in this discussion. Keep it civil, so that the discussion can continue.

This thread has got enough violations of the Forum rules to cool the heels of several participants. Political discussions, personal attacks, discussions of the current pandemic are all here and more. For obvious reasons, I am closing this topic down now. This forum is here to discuss aspects of the game we come to play. The rules are here to to keep discussions on topic and so that people here treat each other with respect. It can be an oasis, like the game itself, to use our time away from work and outside fears to find common meaning and entertainment.

Given the devolution of this topic into personal attacks and trolling, it's outlived its usefulness.

With the return of the ARP ships, I am now at 360 out of the 368 possible. Missing are Iwaki A, Arkansas B, Kamikaze R, Alabama ST, Colbert, Bourgogne, Somers and Neustrashimy.

All of them with torps seem useful, I imagine Fiji would be great, and Mino terrific.

I find most of the british cruisers to be quite useful for this

Captains, let's keep the stat-shaming and personal attacks out of the discussion.

Sadly, my campaign for Joe Yamamoto got mired in red tape. So put me down for Raizo Tanaka

Pending LWM's obviously much more sound appraisal, let me offer this. I find London has consistent HE damage and useful torpedoes for its tier, definitely outclasses Aoba for gunnery. The smoke is quite good, with better duration than Leander, for example, but the range is a little underwhelming, and will cause heartache as you face T8 ships in matches. The plating is 16mm, with a largish and vulnerable citadel, which the heal somewhat mitigates, but don't treat this is an open water flamethrower, the DPM is less than stellar. The best use of the ship I have seen is to block an advance by lighter cruisers and DDs into a threatened flank. In that role it can be a surprising nuisance.

I don't sell ships anymore, looking forward to the new line.

Alright, nothing but personal attack violations for the last couple of pages. I think the conversation here is done.