MassiveSalvo

No, that's not why... The reason why is cause it's easier, AA does not really exist and CVs are now really designed around being damage monsters. 550k Damage in a game in a Hak is unreal... Nobody on the top tier list managed that in ole RTS and I'm sure plenty of them were selfish damage farmers. The Averages are a 1/3rd more whether it's a damage farmer or a "want to win this game type of player." Look at the Max Damage concept too.......Most advanced player make it their joke to Max out Damage/XP/Frags/Etc... Cause it's bragging Rights.

You work for Wargaming and no offense but regardless of anything if you don't know CV tactics and impact or won't admit to them, then you're being deceptive? (I mean come on now we all know that if your CV is a Godtier Player he's going to impact that game) I only died in this game for instance cause of the CV. The last 2 Friend Ships in this game died due to the CV Directly...Without him present we would of won 100% of the time. I won't lie, the role of the rest of the ships in the game does matter. Though now CVs are so common DDs have been transplanted as the 'primary impact ships' onto CVs? Of course they have as in Ranked I don't have a 65%-80 WR in Kleber/Mogador or for no reason at all ... Most people played Ranked with DDs where there are no CVs cause they know they can take the win. Most Super Unicum Players "I Quote THEM," Play CVs when they want the assured win in Ranked... Even the best player I've ever played with a Unicum Master of the game told me why would you play any other ship aside CVs if you want to influence the win. If anything if you have a enough bad players on one side in a Random it's less influential but still HIGHLY influential in Randoms. Just cause the CV can't be everywhere at once and the maps are much larger?(trust me the guy didn't lose many stars to rank out, I think 1-2 would be a stretch)

((My Aggression and my Cruisers Aggression got them killed by Air, what's the incentive to be aggressive to assist DDs or Submarines in Cap Control)) And my flank is where the CV was striking non stop.... the other flank where people pushed, were aggressive and trying to cap contest is where the CV wasn't. Our CV really wasn't doing anything... So what does that tell you? I'm already down to 15% HP waiting for 3 heals my DD and Sub are afraid to be seen, hiding behind rocks without a Radar Cruiser? It tells you a CV who knows what they're doing owns a Cap, Spotting and everything else and ultimately in that game the Enemy Sub Yolo'd our CV and missed. And our CV died cause the flank on my side collapsed and he was not repositioning. We came down to the only ship alive on the Red Team being 1 Low HP Cruiser and their CV ...without their CV they would of lost the game and I could resend the replay if you like? Why you don't see BBs anymore in game as much(last night me and my Friends were laughing at the fact in 4 games we saw 2 games in a row with none) nothing but DDs, Cruiser and CVs. This is a common theme I see a lot more than I ever saw than RTS Carriers. Since you're going to point out Tactics you Fundamentally must see the Flaw in CV Design in game, that is creates an aura of Fear in pushing as "pushing leads to death" causing even more passive gameplay or "The Quick and the Dead?" You can't use your Concealment and you can't hide...So you can die... Or you can sit at 18k in a BB and Pepper things and pray? Seems counterintuitive to creating Caps in the Middle of the Map and making those the winning positions? Is this entertaining??? I don't see it... I think it's an excuse to leave a broken Ship in the game cause a Company Spent millions making it and now doesn't want to delete it cause it wants to recoop it's cash? Yeah! P.S. I played KOTs we played O7, I know a tiny bit of tactics in World of Warships and believe me we weren't go to beat them. And if a CV Player knows what they're doing in game they're going to influence the win and positioning more than anything in the game! That's a fact and RTS Carriers weren't even present in 90% of games... Now CVs are present in 80% of games !

Facts don't lie below if you look at the stats the average SuperUni gets 1/3rd Damage more than the RTS #1 Player in the same Ship. SO what's more OP? Look at MAX damage too? I mean come on a guy got 500k in a HAK? Many more people got over 400k Max, that's rare in RTS Hak. I wonder what the Nak Numbers appear like lordy! There was a time when a Minotaur could create a no fly zone I don't think there is a ship in the game that can do that solo. I don't even know if you can avoid a first strike at all... Shooting down planes now is a joke really. It doesn't stop anything... I won't lie, there were issues long before. All the issues you mention I've been accompany to as I've been here since 2016 and I really am not that great. I got a little better in 2020 with the tutoring of a few Very Good Players and still just okay. I have a ton of experience with RTS Carriers though and I don't recall ever really even seeing them often. I watched and Subbed to Femmenly and her type were in the Minority. There were people in CVs that could 1 strike you in a DD with cross torping. That was a long time ago and I don't recall many people capable of it. It was an EXTREME Group and the sign of that is everyone I know and their brother got the new Age Carriers. Before that they really didn't like 'em. I use to just use my CVs for Spotting and it was hugely impactful. I think it's the only class of ship where I ever got a Very Good Rating for a moment. Go peek at Damage Numbers in WOW Stats and Numbers look at the Top Group of CV Players know and their average damage Numbers. Look below over 4 year of Warships ... The Top CV RTS Dogs are on average in the Hak below the New Ones... That cover just 2 years... By a large number in Average Damage. This is how Impactful the New CV Rework was if you look at the Top Dogs of CVs alone and not the overall. Now you got Nak/Tier 11 CVs...and the new Dogs have 2 more years to train themselves up to get that much better. But 250k Isn't unlikely an average damage number for a Super Unicum Hak Player. 150k is more realistic for an RTS Player. So who isn't actually looking at the facts here? Me I guess Not arguing just saying stuffs broken ... You have a lot more Carriers now that are A LOT more powerful. The AA isn't!

Perfect Example, my first game today tried to play a Mecklenburg which has a STRONG AA capability pushed on a Cap with a Kurfurst retreating, a Nose in Montana, DD in the cap and a Hindy Burning me down. I survived the HE spam quite easily and retreated soon to go dark until of course the CV started focusing me who just happens to be a Super Unicum CV Player. So before the game is even half in I'm dead to first HE Bombs, then torpedoes ... My own CV happens to be not very good well, that's = to game over Can't push my team won't push... Can't go dark, can't use my heals and cycle through if I want to have a good game I'm better sitting at Max Range so the CV Ignores me when in this situation and this is the FIRST GAME of the day. Boring... I think I'll play another game.

You know how much I actually saw a CV prior to the New CV Rework? About 1 in 15 matches?(That was at night, sometimes I wouldn't see a RTS CV at all for days in Randoms) Plus to run an RTS CV you actually had to be pretty good I tried it, it was rather difficult to make a perfect drop. CV Defenders don't know the stats though. You know the BB population at this time was about 50% ... Where are you at honestly? Go to WoWs stats and numbers and take a look at the Top Tier Damage numbers for CV Players? It's quite enlightening. As far as HE Damage yes it was always pretty bad but now that people sit at 20k and snipe a good deal of the time cause they're afraid of being invisibly torp'd and or spotted by a CV you don't have to worry about HE Spam it doesn't reach that far LOL

I play about 5% of what I use to play 2 years ago. About the only reason to even bother to is to div with buddies cause Subs and CVs along with HE Spam and everything else in this game has changed it into about the most boring game to play. Even [edited] is more entertaining. I played a CV tonight who focused my Battleship subsequently in 8 battles I see about 1/3rd the Battleships I use to. Nobody wants to bother... I can see why... People only play ranked cause there are no CVs or Subs not because it's skill based. You call this entertaining. I I have 17k Dubs on my Account, 30k Steel, 500k Coal and I can't even be bothered. Buying a ship that's entertaining to play is a rarity... Most often than not you end up with a Sub Unicum torping you to death or a CV focusing you to death to rack up damage numbers and do nothing else. I am among many players I know that have softly retired and now I see a lot of accounts where someone has 300 or 1200 battles... They're still entertained cause they never knew a World of Warships where you could flank and brawl or dev strike someone with AP. Rack up 150 clawing at the win in your DD in the last 2 seconds of the battle with 30 HP left. Cause those days are gone. I hope the Creators are happy with their creation it won't last... short term gains = long term losses I wouldn't even feel bad about deleting my account with like 100 Premium Ships on it. (losing customers exponentially and having to create unique game mods to remove the undesirable facets of the game nobody ever wanted or wants but 10% of the community) Plus this will likely get deleted as there is no Free Speech about your feelings LOL unless you reddit it... Good lord listen to your customer base! I have spent hundreds on Warships and near 20k battles who better than to tell you what you're doing wrong! All my buddies feel the same and all play 10% of what they use to!

That's what the first Super Unicum Player told me... Survive! That will help your team win more often. Then he showed me detection values and how to use the Caps to spot enemy Destroyers and where to aim on them. He also told me to play the ships I play well in to begin with and stick with them to get better. I am not sure why that was the point, I was told not do that ... Though I find I do a lot better in ships I play a lot of cause I learn every little bit of their mechanics...Some get up to 55-65% WR. Not as high damage or frags as say a guy who is a Unicum but just okay.

It's going to be hard to dig out of a low WR and to improve if you are at that average. Though it may mean if you rerolled you would be a 50%/54% WR player and don't know it. Skill isn't about the WR it's about how well you play and what you know. Since you have ships that are up there. It proves to me you're better than your stats. That can be the case. I knew German Aussie who had a low PR but was a Purple PR cause he started to study hard but in the early part of the game he didn't. I'd say look at your average WR/Damage/Frags/How well you Survive/Spot Potential Damage in the past 500-1000 games and not during a bad grind. That will show you how you perform in your best ships. It's all about making it more entertaining and Wargaming will never introduce Skill based MM. The wait time would be horrendous. . . Fun Games have 1 or 2 guys left alive on one side and 1 guy left on the other and the points are ticking down and you gotta throw your ship into overdrive for that clutch win to take out the DD hiding in his conceal. Not when you farm 450k cause everyone instantly DCP'd their Kurfurst for you to farm and you accumulate damage cause your team can't hit anything at 5k away.

Yeah, I noticed a good deal of players playing don't really care about winning or making the game entertaining. Played a game the other night a guy didn't know that touching the cap would of won the game for his entire team. He didn't understand the point system. He was in a tier 10 match. . . He didn't read chat and he didn't listen to the Voice Requests in game. A good deal of guys just want to shoot the bad guy! Exit and go watch Bobba Fett. I'm confidant in a ship I'm experienced in, to carry more wins than losses in any of those game modes. With a Div of players I handpick, 80% of the time in randoms, 53% in Sprint(really dropped for me toughest game mode to carry), randoms More than I lose. CBs is really tough when you get in the higher leagues... but 50% plus

I understand that also, it's not really about Stats for me. It's about playing a good game. . . About doing something interesting! When I did the same boring game for the 5000th time I started to ask myself can I do a bit better. Can I live longer, can I kill more stuff? Can I have more fun. . . It's fun to load up and just go 'bang bang bang', not knocking it. I just figure anyone who took the time to register on this forum and read any of this stuff really wants to improve? Why bother if not... And yea 45% I have that in a lot of m ships and I usually look and ask myself what did I do wrong? (I have quite a few of those type of ships even now)

Agreed, "We all have a life," I joined SCCC server and boy I'm envious of them. They treated me so well there! They were laid back guys who "had zero bad things to say to anyone!" They invited me to div up and I'm sure if I asked them anything they would be more than helpful... I'm realistic about my expectations, I look at their batting average... If I am doing 80k average 1 frag per game now in tier 10 these guys can do a lot better. I have to respect that they know what they're doing and or have taken the time to learn. An SCCC Div generally is going to be tough to beat or is going to win 70-80% of Randoms. That's not chance. Plus though they may not be a training clan(?) I doubt they wouldn't answer a question!

I got family responsibility, both of my eyes suffer blindspots, I suffer muscular disease... I bat at just average in this game. . . I think that the problem is when someone is at your level which I was 2 years ago is nobody tells them what they're doing wrong at all. Look it doesn't take hours, tutorials or whatever. While your floating your boat someone can make 4 or 5 pointers a night in Discord and in 6 to 7 weeks you go from a 45% WR to a WR 51%. You have to however be part of the community at large and in the active section... That is difficult for a lot of guys I relate! It's stressful sometimes to be on comms with people when you got family, gotta go get up and do something else. Whatever... Just saying most people here could benefit from some basic elementary rules. Like a Big Brother/Big Sister Program. I ask a few guys what I am doing wrong(you can't pen that, it's hydro is 6k, you need to switch to HE in this situation cause it's going to yield more results) add that up 30 minutes tonight. Every night you play... Over a year you get fairly decent. I don't see anyone advocating people do that here. I don't believe that the chance factor is as big as people say. I'm going to be dead honest I just played Silver League and I decided I AM GETTING out of it. I've been struggling! Having to face a good deal of Unicum Players from Gold and then guys that failed there way up there. I got called out and reported. Oddly in a night where I am a 12 wins and I think 7 losses and 1 saved star. It took me forever cause tier 10 attracts a lot of the try hards I think. I don't know why I did it, and it took an insane amount of games. It happened... P.S. You ever want to improve and want to put in 3 hours a week while you play instead drop me a message and I'll add you to my clan and discord. 25% of the guys there are where you're at... If you ask anyone will help you!

Unequivocally the Saddest Community I've been part of... :: tears fall from eyes for these lost souls :: And I've gamed for 38 years on PC Yea... for real ROFL, this is what I get more people desire Potatoes. Why not just play COOP, let's not educate anyone nor make a game that increases the skill level of any of the player's involved. I suppose that's why people whine so much and make tons of reports in game chat. "Daily I see a Tirpitz Torp someone at 10k plus away" ~Flamu Every other gaming community of this size generally merits improvement as a Virtue. This community encourages the opposite. I suppose farming 1 DCPing BratWursts is just too fun for a handful of players or the Forum's Community is out of touch with the active community ... I am an active member of several gaming forums and self improvement is a Mantra. This is the one exception.. I wonder why? ~HOI4, Highly active Improvement Section(rewards, you can play with the bigboys, check the Paradox Forums) same goes for the rest of their titles ~Matrix Games, the Forums are tutorials quite literally on how to play the game and rarely do people withhold but the most sparse information ~Slitherine, I would say they're downright willing to train you in a game if you can't figure it out. I have spent time with some of the programmer's that I help educate to play their own game or they helped me. This is on the likes of Verdun(and every title since), Battlefront 2, etc... Where people call you a hmm, crappy player and there is little to no way to advance yourself. P.S. Even played in [edited]... I mean I can't in 200 hours of grinding there I ever heard 1% of the junk I hear here... Now I know why World of Warships chat is 99% Salt. People enjoy their mediocrity. I will exit the forums as I'm about to torp someoneone in my Shima from 29k away. I think they'll reach?

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