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They don't really seem to care what the NA thinks...

My last post on this... a pm to and replied from WG makes it clear that it is what it is. I tried. I maintain that the NA base does not get what it should, in many ways. If you look at the red tracker feature of the Ship Comrade site, you will not that the WG is very active on the the EU/RU/SEA sites, but not so much on the NA forums. It sticks out to me. I won't analyze it, but I will add it to the other symptoms.

Not for the NA clan testers... *we* didn't meet the requirement, but then they didn't even give us a window to actually complete them becasue they canceled the sessions where we could have, at the last minute, without good communications... but that is a whole 'nother thread filled with disappointment and crocodile tears ..... WG has really cheesed off a bunch of the NA Clan base...

Echo... The avg age of my previous clan was at least 40 maybe higher... we've been around a while... we had our share of clan drama like most do. They are all busy people, with family, jobs and many other demands on their time, and I can think of only one person in the clans I have played with that I have seen post in these forums.... so I am one of about 60 people that does take the time, the other 59 don't.... in a way I do represent many of them, not just my own voice... they don't have time fro drama, in their lives , in the game or in here and .. .well... this does get a bit dramatic... the user base lives in a world that includes WoWS.. the WG staff live and breath it every day.. we come from different perspectives and that can lead to ...well.. where we are now.. but yeah digress... the WoWS community is mostly without toxicity... cheers all.

One more add... I have left the clan I was in and am by choice clan-less... Most of the people in my clan won;t bother to come here and express how they feel.... they basically think WG does.not.care so they do not waste their time in this forum, but trust me the feelings expressed in this thread are felt by most of the people in the clan I was in... I've relayed some of it while cleaning it up so it can be presented here in this forum, and I hope you can use your imagination to fill in the expressions they used to make their point... and again I will state that they won't come in here and express it, because they are quite sure it won;t make a snap of difference I haven't given up yet, but I am close. WG.. what happens when most of your user base doesn;t bother to communicate back to you because they feel you guys don't listen and don't care when you do? anywho... yeah... I am really discouraged by WG overall and and in particular this incident of blowing off the good work and intentions of people trying to help..

I gave up on the PTS a while back... I stated then that the loss of premium time was not being compensated enough to make it worth while loosing the advancement of and in FreeeXPGains/XPGains/CaptXPGains/SilverCredit/Chance at SC etc etc these all go out the window if you spend you game time on the PTS and the reward is a few flags that don't make up the los... and I supposed we are supposed to feel privileged and excited to spend time on a server with high ping... the reward scheme should match what is given up in order to play the PTS Communication seems to only flow well downhill around here, getting it to flow the other direction, not so much. ( I do appreciate that there are 10's of thousands of us and a few of them, I do) WG does a lot of talking about how much they are open to listen, how much they want feedback yet they don't actually seem to *really* want it when it is convenient for them and ignore it if they do not like it.. They all have jobs to do, and they have guidelines for doing those jobs, but we can *see* when the tough questions gets asked and the people on the streams react the way they do... So... yeah... here is a thread with a lot of well thought out sentences and debates of the user base expressing their concerns in a constructive and non-bashing manner. The feeling I am being left with is that we in the NA are a pain, yet we feel that we are being treated like the bastard set child.. I am hooping that that is not how WG intends to treat us, but that is how I feel and as been expressed, how others feel. WG, Is this the result you are aiming for ? We keep coming back to issues of communication and the user base feeling that WG is just not hearing us?

Well what else are they going to say? I am a bit down on WG at the moment... yet seriously... they are going to say they listen .. I mean they are certainly not going to say the opposite. At times it feels just like the treatment we get from our politicians here in the States,,, they seem to respond as if they are listening, but the actions that follow do not seem to match. ... I am really on the fence lately... am I being jerked around or does WG actually give a rodent's derriere ?

I would have participated if invited. What we have seen are glimpses of what the interface is going to "be like", but like others that have not had experience with it, I got nothing.. :D

But to answer your question NO steel for YOU!

I think all of what you need to know is covered here in This Thread

Ding Ding Ding!!!!! There is no penalty for using radar and no risk. I also believe the LOS solution is best, but I am guessing that it basically makes using radar an instant death wish... Maybe they should have thought about it a bit more... WG was all over getting rid of camping a while back and then they introduce a ship that MUST be used as a camper to be effective. I agree with you, they need to go back and MAKE the LOS solution work. ..but yeah..

Not thinking nowadays that WG actually listens to, or cares about, what we think other than to give lip service. Camping... it is a meta that seems to stay with us. Radar has been horrible for the game. The way they implemented it has actually been very counter productive to the meta by creating ships with consumables that BEG the use r to camp.. .so that is what we have in the higher tiers.. camping. FPS issues... so many gamers have been weaned on FPS games, so working with teammates is a totally foreign concept to many Unskilled players at higher tiers almost guarantee that play will be weak. There is no "ladder" for new players to climb that demonstrates how good play is rewarded.

I do not. @MrConway knew nothing about the issue... I suspect because despite our efforts, the communication from @Gneisenau013 and our posts here, he was unaware when I asked him about yesterday morning on his live stream. In order to listen, someone has to tell them.... ...... this all stinks like yesterdays diapers... once again (sigh) WG screws up and then denies it screwed up, then ignores the issue.. and all over lack of good communication and a lack of respect for the player base... now where have we heard this before? Are we going there again? This situation is stupid. WG screwed up and disappointed the NA clan base... we volunteered our time, made time available, and we got shafted, ignored and told to "go away or we will taunt you sommore".... It is such a little thing, but it demonstrates how WG thinks of the NA player base.... and that is... not much, eh? WG... do you really want to send a message like you are? Is that your intent? Blow us off like so much unneeded awful ? That is exactly the effect you are having, and not because we did anything, but because you guys made a promise, then reneged on it and then when we are not happy with the result, you say ...too bad, so sad. I and a few others have tried real hard to discuss this situation in a reasonable adult manner, and we've gotten no where and now it is in the "leave it and hopefully it will go away" stage... Really feeling pissed off at this point, and I think I am already covered in the other...

... .it coalesced today at some point... It comes down to being taken advantage of..... I feel like the guy who made plans to show up for the party, said he bring the sound system, and only after you get there and setup said system are you told , "oops, we canceled the party" ... yeah... taken advantage of sums it up. "Oh, don't worry about the NA clans, we got what we needed for the EU/RU/SEA folks." it's just all so much "why.did.I.put.that.in.my.mouth?" , like that time you tasted your own ear wax by mistake ( or was it on purpose, hmmmm?) Also will back up that *I* appreciate what Fem and Radr and the rest of the WGNA crew do to make this a better game and experience and I hope they understand that my frustration is not aimed at them..

...... I just asked @MrConway for his view on the situation, and he "is unaware of any situation and suggests we ask @Femennenly about it" later today in her stream. ..like I said.. communication challenges....