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  1. Any idea about the date that the Link to Groups will be shown to the public?
  2. So, just to clarify, we made a complaint about a loophole found in the rules set regarding times sets and the famous daylight saving time, and all we can get is a hand washing from the staff saying that it is our fault for not having the same custom? Just to clarity, because all I read is "not the staff responsability" but the staff is the one that live in the ET zone, the staff is the one that know the daylight saving time in the ET zone, the staff is the one that set up the time for the matches and then change them because of the famous daylight saving time, and it is not the staff responsability to notify then when a change in the time zone occur? just asking, since is the staff the ones that have to make the change in the time of the matches to be play, according to "2.2 - Matches may only be played Saturday and will start at 21:00 ET for match one and 22:30 ET for match two." So, if a time change occurs in the ET time zone, is the staff responsible to make a notification to the others teams that are out side of the time zone that a time change has occur? or we are just supposed to know all this atypical things? You all can be Supertester or Alpha tester and all of that, but whos responsibility is to notify the rest of the players when a change in the time occurs? the clock? or the ones that set the time for the matches in the first place?
  3. Ok Mrs Vas79, you are quoting the rules, 10.1 "on field decision" Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:22 PM So the time changed last weekend [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:22 PM but it changed for you for that region in south america that time changes does not happen Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:22 PM So eastern is the default time [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:22 PM UTC it's our time zone and it remainds the same Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:23 PM And ours changes, and the league works in Eastern Are you now 2 hours ahead? [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:23 PM and did you notify that? Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:24 PM I didn't [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:24 PM so Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:24 PM Because it hadn't occurred to me [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:24 PM see it is not our fault because once again... in south america that time changes does not happen ever Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:25 PM We have 4 teams out of time zone The remaining 30 are NA [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:25 PM so what about those teams Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:28 PM Go look at rule 2.2 [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:29 PM let me see 2.2 - Matches may only be played Saturday and will start at 21:00 ET for match one and 22:30 ET for match two. but did you notify the south american team about the times change? it's my point because in South america does time changes never happen Vas79-Last Saturday at 9:30 PM Rule says Eastern Time Not EST or EDT [F.AL.O.]Crosis-Last Saturday at 9:31 PM but what about the South american teams that never have to change the timezone? we are screw because of that? for something that never happened in this time zone? Does that count as a on field decision? the, and I quote "Because it hadn't occurred to me" is considered a field decision? and if it is so, we still got the same result, the match for forfeit. And Rule 10.2 talks only about disputes ingame or after game, like infraction, it says nothing regarding time changes or not notifications from the staff in matters of time changes
  4. Yes, we are playing in the NA server... and if you expect that only people from North America will be playing in the server... it's like thinking that only people from Russia are allow to play in the RU server, or that only people from Germany are allow to play in the EU server or that only people from Singapore are allow to play in the Asian server... http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Servers (Location of each server)
  5. And you did notified those clans members based outside north america that they had to be 1 hour before normal schedule in order to be on time to the matches, right?... Because I don't think that they also know about the time change, or even aware that the time change occur Yes, you are right, the rules are set at 9pm est... but you live on a region when 9pm is changing time every 3 or 4 months, Advancing 1 hour or retreating 1 hour, while in the rest of the world stays the same... and you expect me to have the habit of be checking the clock every 3 moths to see if I have the same time as you do? see the dilema, that's what atypical to us, maybe you do it on daily bases, maybe you are already used to it because it's part of the region custom, but it is not ours, therefore a little notification in advance is well appreciated, but that did not happen.
  6. Buenas días Staff del Torneo Supremacy League Por los sucesos ocurridos el día sábado 18 de marzo de 2017 El presente comunicado tiene como finalidad hacer saber la molestia, malestar y disconformidad que se ha presentado en varios clanes integrantes del torneo respecto al cambio de horario ocurrido recientemente en el mismo, dicho cambio de horario afecta notablemente la participación en el torneo, colocando a cada uno de los clanes afectados en una posición comprometedora, porque al haber sido presentado un cronograma de las batallas a disputarse, al haberse fijado ya una hora específica para cada batalla a disputarse, se nos afecta, como grupo no perteneciente a la región geográfica UTC – 05:00 (ET Time) con un cambio de horario que es costumbre en esa región, pero que es completamente atípico para nosotros, los integrantes de los clanes no pertenecientes a esa región geográfica, dicho cambio de horario tampoco es notificado por los canales de comunicación oficial de la Supremacy League, y a entenderse, que aun, siendo el cambio de horario una costumbre habitual en esa región en cuestión, así mismo, no lo es para las demás regiones afectadas (Sur América y Asia) ni para los clanes que están inscritos y están en representación de dichas zonas afectadas. Bajo conversaciones privadas con el Staff del torneo, se citó el reglamento bajo el cual se rige el torneo (https://www.warshipsupremacyleague.com/season4/ruleset) en particular, Art 2, numeral 2, el cual dice “Los partidos sólo se jugarán el sábado y comenzarán a las 21:00 ET para el primer partido y 22:30 ET para el partido dos” con el fin de alegar que se establece una zona horaria determinada, pero como es mencionado previamente, dicha zona horaria tiene costumbre de cambios de horario que son atípicas a las demás zonas, y sabiendo que poseen este habito en los cambios de horario, lo más prudente seria avisar de que dicho cambio afectara los programas de batallas en cuando a la hora en que se darán las batallas, adelantándolas una (1) hora, esta notificación no se dio, y este error es aceptado por el mismo staff del torneo. Ahora bien, por la falta de notificación por parte del staff del torneo seis (6) clanes en particular se vieron afectados de un total de treinta y tres (33) clanes inscritos en el torneo, lo cual representa el 18.1% del general, lo cual, en escala representativa es bastante significativo. Estos mismos seis clanes se vieron forzados a declarar el primer encuentro como Forfeit, por no tener una costumbre de cambio de horario y por no ser notificados que dicho cambio de horario tuvo lugar en primer momento, así mismo, cada uno de los equipos entra en proceso de penalidad en cuanto al número de Forfeits permitidos llegando a tener el primero de tres Forfeits permitidos, el cual pudo haber sido evitado si la notificación hubiese tenido lugar. Como se puede observar, la falta de notificación en cuando a costumbres relacionadas a los cambios de horarios llevados en una región geográfica en particular, afectaron significativamente a los integrantes de los clanes inscritos en el torneo los cuales no perteneces a dicha región geográfica UTC – 05:00 (ET Time), esto crea un sentimiento de molestia, de inconformidad y de disgusto haciendo entender de que por no compartir las mismas costumbres o la misma región geográfica, se nos amonesta o se nos perjudica como particulares y como colectivo. Si bien existe un reglamento, el cual se usa como un modelo para tener orden y acatar ciertas normal, también dicho reglamento está supeditado a los principios generales del Derecho como lo es el Principio de notificación (citation ad totam causam seus generalis) y el Principio de publicidad (audiatur et altera pars) presentados por Carnelutti en “Metodología del Diritto", en donde es dado como carácter sine qua non que estos principios ocurran antes para luego si poder hacer algún tipo de sanción hacia la parte, dicho principio está presente tanto en los países con un estilo Romancístico de Derecho, así como países dentro del Common Law. En conclusión, y como pensamiento personal, tomo de muy mal gusto que dichos cambios no hayan sido notificados a los integrantes y/o participantes del torneo, solo por no compartir una región geográfica o una costumbre particular referente a cambios de horarios, así como también tomo muy reprochante la imposición del articular de un reglamento sin antes ser notificada la parte afectada, lo cual representa una clara violación a la misma regla, porque, aun cuando en el reglamento este mencionado que “Los partidos sólo se jugarán el sábado y comenzarán a las 21:00 ET para el primer partido y 22:30 ET para el partido dos” (Art 2, numeral 2) no existe en ningún lugar de dicho reglamento la responsabilidad que deben tener el staff del torneo a cumplir con el principio de notificación y el principio de publicidad cuando se lleve a cabo algún cambio en el reglamento. Now in English Good morning Supremacy League Tournament Staff For events that occurred on Saturday, March 18, 2017 The purpose of this press release is to make known the discomfort and dissatisfaction that has occurred in several clans that are part of the tournament regarding the recent change of schedule in the tournament. This change in schedule significantly affects participation in the tournament, placing each one of the affected clans in a compromising position, because a schedule of the battles to be disputed has been set, and a specific time has already been set for each battle to be fought, we are affected as a group not belonging to the geographical region UTC - 05:00 (ET Time) with a change of schedule that is customary in that region, but that is completely atypical for us, the members of the clans not belonging to that geographical region, this change of schedule is not notified by the communication channels of the Supremacy League, and to understand that, although the change of schedule is a habitual custom in that region in question, likewise, it is not for the other affected regions (South America and Asia) as well as for the clans that are registered and representing those affected areas. Under private discussions with the Tournament Staff, the rules governing the tournament (https://www.warshipsupremacyleague.com/season4/ruleset) were cited, in particular Art 2, numeral 2, which reads " Matches may only be played Saturday and will start at 21:00 ET for match one and 22:30 ET for match two" in order to claim that a particular time zone is established, but as mentioned previously, that time zone has custom of changes of schedule that are atypical to the other zones, and knowing that they possess this habit in the changes of schedule, the prudent thing would be to warn that that change will affect the programs of battles in when to the time in which the battles will take place , forwarding one (1) hour, this notification was not given, and this error is accepted by the same staff of the tournament. However, due to the lack of notification by the tournament staff, six (6) clans in particular were affected by a total of thirty-three (33) clans registered in the tournament, which represents 18.1% of the general, which on a representative scale is quite significant. These same six clans were forced to declare the first encounter as Forfeit, for not having a custom of change of schedule and for not being notified that said change of schedule took place in the first moment, likewise, each of the teams enters in penalty process in terms of the number of Forfeits allowed, having the first of three forfeits allowed, which could have been avoided if the notification had taken place. As can be observed, the lack of notification in regard to customs related to the changes of schedules carried out in a particular geographic region, significantly affected the members of the clan registered in the tournament who do not belong to a geographical region UTC - 05 : ET (ET Time), this creates a feeling of annoyance, discontent and disgust making it understood that by not sharing the same customs or the same geographic region, we are warned or harmed as individuals and as a collective. Although there is a regulation, which is used as a model to have order and to comply with certain normal, also said regulation is subject to the general principles of the Law as it is the principle of notification (citation ad totam causam suis generalis) and principle of publicity (audiatur et altera pars) presented by Carnelutti in "Metodologia del Diritto", where it is given as a sine qua non character that these principles occur before, for later if it can make some type of sanction towards the part, this principle is present both in countries with a Romanistic style of law, as well as countries within Common Law In conclusion, and as a personal thought, it is very bad taste that such changes have not been notified to the members and / or participants of the tournament, only for not sharing a geographic region or a particular custom regarding schedule changes, as well as I reproach to impose the articulation of a regulation without first being notified the affected party, which represents a clear violation of the same rule, because, although in the regulation it mentioned that "The parties will only be played on Saturday and will begin to 21:00 ET for the first match and 22:30 ET for match two "(Art 2, numeral 2) there is nowhere in that regulation the responsibility that must have the tournament staff to comply with the principle of notification and the principle of publicity when any changes are made to the regulations.
  7. Genial.... pero, ¿Solo para tanques? ¿Y para los barquitos?
  8. Stuck in a division since yesterday.

    Same problem here... me and 2 other playes that were with me in the division... Can't join division and can't join rooms in trainings rooms
  9. I have some problems with the game... since today I can't sent division to any other player and also all the room on the training room are no show... I can't join a room or create one either... can anyone tell me if they have run into the same problems I have and how to solve it... thanx
  10. Clan disponible en idioma Español

    Hola a todos, mi nombre es Luis, nick en game Crosys y pues soy de Venezuela, con interés de participar
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