Rouxi

WG is allergic to nerfing gimmicks or flavors so they will nerf everything else into the ground to compensate (e.g Yueyang). I think that's also why they are nerfing Thunderers range instead of the HE or accuracy.

What point? I said rarely, rarely encompasses the secondary nerf. You added nothing new. You just butted in to cry about your pet ships. You're the one that took this personal. You ignored what I was saying just so you could whine about something that personally affected you.

Don't know and don't care. Maybe you can tell me how many of those nerfs over the years were as significant as the nerf to Thunderer that started this thread.

One change out of the thousands that have happened over the years. Sure sounds like all the time to me. You are totally right. I have now changed my mind due to your keen insight. You are obviously too smart for me to keep up. Please don't say anymore or my head might explode.

Because it's irrelevant to what I said, you're just making noise without adding to the conversation. I said rarely for a reason but you're not smart enough to figure out why.

Obvious idiot that can't read is obvious. Hi mods.

Yes I'll be sure to tell them what the word rarely means.

You can say the same thing about tech tree ships since you can buy FXP and credits yet people rarely complain about nerfs to them or demand refunds.

I think a lot of people felt it was just a nerfed Conqueror due to the missing super heal so they didn't look at what else it had.

I fought against it once and it was a nightmare. The low concealment and high DPM made every gun fight painful and the super heal meant it could easily out trade most anything. Add in the RN smoke letting it go dark whenever and RN hydro making it hard to torp make it one of those ships you need your team to help you with. The ship definitely needed some nerfs.

They only pen 26mm which makes them mostly worthless at T10 since most people won't sit broadside to let you get superstructure hits.

If DD are coddled and easy and overpowered then why is their win rate no better than other classes? The usual response to that is bad players drag their stats down but why don't bad players drag the stats down on other classes? At which point the argument turns into people claiming either bad players only play DD or that mistakes aren't punished as hard on other classes but that DD are still some how easy. Can someone please move the conversation beyond this point and explain this contradiction.

This so much. When ever WG doesn't tell us the details people start assuming the worst leading to huge rage threads, so by the time we do find out what's happening people are already in such a bad mood that they will hate it no matter what.

I don't think gold is worth the extra grind and while the quality of play is better it's not that much better. Also as you pointed out everyone is tryharding in OP ships in gold which makes the meta rather boring. I like the variety of ships you see in bronze / silver even if most of the time the guy in the stock Roon does nothing useful.

Ranked definitely does something to separate the good from the bad, just not as much as some people would like. The average level of play is noticeably higher in gold than it is in bronze or randoms but there's too many safety nets along the way that prevent bad players from falling back too far.