Dunk_Master_Flex

Considering the absolutely hilarious mess that went on with WG and Yukon, I wouldn't expect much. Great suggestions but considering the trends? Good luck lol.

Sadly I don't think there's much merit just slapping completely made up armament on historically named hulls, Lord Magnus basically hits the nail on the head in regard to everything. Niobe I think would be a nice premium for Tier III but my favorite premium would likely be Prince Robert in her AA cruiser refit. Forgive my potato images but the ship is immensely interesting if a bit tricky to properly balance. 5 dual 102mm guns outlined in red, 4 single 40mm Bofors guns outlined in green, 2 quad 40mm Pom Pom guns outlined in blue and 2 dual 20mm Oerlikons + 4 single 20mm Oerlikons outlined in orange. She has no armor and can do 22/23 knots but I would imagine she would have a sizable healthpool due to her tonnage alongside an absolutely blistering AA and anti-surface battery with her guns. Low tier obviously but there would be some balance issues to definitely overcome.

I've been keeping up to date with this whole fiasco for quite sometime now since prior reviews/previews and there isn't much to be said that I haven't said privately to Chobittsu or publicly on the forums that hasn't been said before so I'll keep it brief. I very much appreciate the work of you two trying desperately to bring atleast some kind of Canadian-esque content to WOWS, regardless if I agree with the small details in the end. For all of the drama, it's nice to see WG atleast entertaining the fact about adding more Canadian ships although talking about adding Canadian submarines seems like a rather backhanded consolation. The submarine branch of the RCN is basically it's most neglected section and that's saying something given how much absolute disregard the navy as a whole faced, it only came into existence on the whim of a local politician in 1914 basically Mission Impossibling them out from under the noses of Chile from a US shipyard because his province had effectively no defenses. Those submarines and the pair that followed were rather unimportant WWI vintage boats lacking basically any capability, only to be scrapped in a few years and completely destroying the submarine branch in the meantime. A pair of German U-Boats were operated briefly post WWII alongside a pair of US lent submarines before we ended up with the Oberons. I haven't been keeping up with submarines but there doesn't seem like much to pick from there, especially in regards to anything unique or worthwhile. Aircraft carriers are different as we have some useful options with Warrior, Magnificent and Bonaventure but I don't expect them to go out of their way modeling completely unique ships when they can't even be asked to modify existing models. Personally I would even accept basically any Queen Elizabeth or Revenge class preliminary as a Canadian paper battleship, that could atleast be plausible for the Naval Aid Bill period or hell maybe even some kind of paper battlecruiser as an alternate history diversion if Canada had followed Australia in buying Fleet Units. Canada planned to buy Town class cruisers (Weymouth) prior to WWI alongside some destroyers (which Canada also vaguely looked into building throughout WWI) so there is still a few historically accurate reskins that could be done. Of course those fall into the trap of low tier premiums not selling enough so I don't know in the end. It's a real shame the Canadian playerbase and you two especially have been nonchalantly waved aside by WG seemingly constantly ever since this debacle has started, nothing seems to be changing from what I've seen. Keep up the good work but in the end, I can't really blame either of you two for feeling let down by what has happened. Hopefully a half decent Canadian premium might haul me back in but after this, I can't say I'm holding my breath for that.

I'd like to point out that the Naval Aid Bill was specifically built around providing the Royal Navy the funds to build whatever design of battleship or battlecruiser that they decided upon, the Canadian's had zero say in what kind of design would actually be chosen as this was essentially a blank cheque. While the various oddball U series designs are interesting, what likely would have came from this bill would be more QE's or Revenges. The Canadian government kept the door open to technically retain ownership of these ships however, the legitimacy of that exact fact is up for debate and Canada did not have the infrastructure, personnel or funding to operate even a single capital ship. Historically it makes zero sense for a U series design to be chosen although for gameplay reasons I would likely be preferred.

I haven't played WOWS seriously for years at this point but when I heard about this thing being added I couldn't help but put in my two cents. Dragging me back out of the depths to talk here again is a seriously good accomplishment for WG but they've provided some incredibly offensive bait so what can I say. It's no secret for anybody that remembers me remotely that I absolutely loathed how the situation with Nelson, KGV and Monarch as handled when the British battleship line was originally added, I won't open up that wound once again but I'll just say that this is about the biggest slap in the face WG could dish out that I could imagine. It almost feels deliberately targeted at this point. HMS Mongrel slapped into the Royal Canadian Navy, thrown down a tier and handed the name of Yukon is all completely nonsensical. The Canadian playerbase and members attached to WG screamed their throats out to even get Haida for years, only for WG to go dark regarding the RCN up until throwing out what seems like an absolutely minimal effort cash grab attempt at a captain trainer for the Commonwealth? I'm aware that WG has basically zero interest adding more Canadian premiums due to lack of interest/being lower tier and not worth their time but this is just infuriating. I atleast hope this mess of a ship is properly balanced if nothing else. There is so many better options out there even just for names, Yukon is just WG throwing a dart at a map of Canada because "le haha canada cold all snow igloo people good name". I can't really expect much given how atrocious other WG naming schemes have been in this game but still come on, there was literally Canadian capital ship names you could have used or basically anything else besides one of the frozen desolate hell holes up North. My expectations were literally non-existent and I'm still let down. Basically anything would be better for the Commonwealth tree besides this. Canada was involved alongside Australia and the rest of the Commonwealth with the "Fleet Unit" concept that the Admiralty was pitching years prior to WWI. You could take basically any preliminary battleship or battlecruiser, slap a Canadian name on it and it would be far better than this. One of the QE/Revenge/etc variations with a Canadian name slapped over them would work even better with even some inkling of historical accuracy behind them. A reskinned Warspite or QE called Acadia would be leagues better than this but I suppose then they couldn't charge Tier 7 prices for her. The fact we haven't got Harry DeWolf yet as a Captain is also pretty sad. It's all so tiring to be handed this after all these years.

Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure the reason the FREMM ships are much cheaper is because they intentionally cut the lifetime repair/maintenance costs out of their offer unlike the others like the Type 26 which has it all included, hence the massive price tag.

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/local/failed-warship-bidder-sues-to-scuttle-deal-261443/ Seems like the Dutch aren't too happy about Lockheed being the preferred choice for the Canadian Single Class Surface Combatant Program.

The version of Haida we have in WOWS is the Haida straight from British dockyards, you can tell by the tripod mast. Later in the war, she made her first trip home to Canada where she received her cage mast and metal maple leaf on her funnel, as per regulations of the RCN. Kind of lame WG decided to take the lazy route and give us what amounts to Cossack with a turret gone and AA upgraded when Haida could have easily been visually different.

Again, broken procurement system, not a lack of funding. $42B+ is more than enough for such a class, no clue what you are praddling on about. I sense a bit of bias here.

We planned on purchasing the two Mistral class ships from France however, political kickball meant Egypt snatched them first. We have one AOR operational with two ordered. We're ready to drop upwards of $42 billion on a 15~ ship class, money isn't the issue, a broken and stagnant procurement system is. The Iroquois were converted into AA destroyers however, we're looking for a handful of dedicated AA destroyers while the rest are general purpose ASW tilted ships. The proposed Canadian variant does not come with the Sea Ceptors, only the 24 cell VLS system, so we're looking at 24 cells. Anything is a quantum leap over what we have now, our Halifax class are solid ships but they are relatively under armed and are getting worn out at a high pace. I'm betting the Type 26 will be chosen just due to it's commonality with other nations plus BAE's apparent pull with the RCN however I've heard musings that the Spanish option is the most preferred option from within the navy itself. But keep in mind that's from sailors, so it could very likely be [edited]. The Type 26 in it's Canadian proposal really rubs me the wrong way, size and armament wise. The flexible mission bay is helpful but how helpful for such a price point and and on an unproven ship at that. I'm personally agreeing with you, the Dutch ship looks like the most solid choice for the RCN.

Hey everybody, I'm somewhat unfamiliar with modern warships but I'm curious about something. Given the Canadian Surface Combatant project to replace our Halifax class frigates and the decommissioned Iroquois class destroyers has just finalized the approved designs, I want to get some other opinions. The British Type 26, Dutch De Zeven Provinciën and Spanish F-105 frigates were all accepted for future review. On paper, the Dutch and Spanish offerings seem relatively reasonable, both having the capacity to provide ASW and air defense due to their fair number of VLS cells. However, the designs are relatively old. Mind you not very old however, not spring chickens. The Type 26 however worries me. It has a relatively low number of VLS cells and given it's large tonnage which worries me. I'm aware future proofing is a good thing however, the ships seem extremely empty in the capacity department compared to the other offerings. The Type 26 is the newest of the offerings but it's also untested. Given the state of British shipbuilding as of late, I'm hesitant to say the process will go smoothly, especially after crossed with Canadian shipbuilding/procurement and that mess. The submitted Type 26 variant, note the very small VLS complement compared to her size.

Looks to be in the 60's or 70's however it's a bit hard to tell due to her armament never changing over her service. It makes sense historically to make her different than Boise and Helena, as the Argentinian Navy wasn't exactly the most competent bunch.

Due to the ships age and relatively poor upkeep in Argentinian service, she could only make 30 knots.

I'd imagine either sold in a more expensive bundle or given as a challenge reward for July 1st.

Well boo that's a real shame. Whatever, I'll take her either way