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  1. tincancarrier

    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    You have your opinions, I have mine. I'm not lecturing to you. Most of our public conversations where we agree or disagree has never been about you. I'm telling what's left of the other people in this thread that there are alternative viewpoints. My intention is simply that I feel you are being unfair to these developers - after all, you were the one who raised the "sexism" issue in the first place. Trying to patronizingly assume that I somehow "don't" get the details is really insulting considering how many artists within this specific community I've interacted with, specifically on this issue. Most are surprisingly on the same page as me because if this is an issue that's defensible, quite more than a few would be willing to hop out and risk their skins. Girls Frontline's dev idiocy is very well known, and there are plenty of artists that has won the battle of public opinion over before. This isn't one of them. Suggesting my logic and equating this with an attempt to stop a "civil rights" movement is exactly the sort of problem that I'm talking about. See, whenever you create a community identity or a "movement" or whatsoever to rally behind, you must take into account how this movement represents how your particular community is viewed upon by others in order for it to succeed. Warship Girls' playerbase has made a notorious name for themselves in this current three-way between KanColle, Azur Lane, and WG. KC's player base have the extremist elements that exists within it - we've talked about this before. Are there "peaceful" WG players? Of course. The majority is nice and peaceful and friendly. Most are fine people. Does it matter to the public perception? The answer is really no. Each community and their perception within the public is determined largely by the extremist elements within their particular community. In this case, whatever the reputation of "feminism" is in South Korea, it is inevitably connected back to Megalia and the aforementioned groups. In the same way, if you consider the Chinese and their concept of "homegrown" feminism (which is really thinly veiled female supremacy), feminists advocates make it very clear in terms of which ideology they're supporting. I am aware that there are people who believe the best way to convince people is through radical or aggressive or extreme ways. I don't happen to think it's a good idea. So, trying to pin this argument on me doesn't work. I support the civil rights (black) movement. I don't support the extremist elements that advocate for violent overthrow or genocide of non-black people. You're the one that's trying to say just because a particular ideal is worthwhile or have worthwhile elements in it that we must tolerate everything there is about it. In fact, this is the same argument that the artist is making. I say we shouldn't. It's that simple. She's culturally aware that the particular extremist group IS what the playerbase and the devs are alluding to. She could have made the same argument - I don't support Megalia or extremist ideologies (which she did, but she never names it explicitly, which really gets the mind going as to "which" extremist ideology she's really rejecting), but I am still a feminist and support equality and ended the issue. Why didn't she? Why did she explode at the developers? This person is not dumb. This isn't the first time she's had this particular type of alteration. Any reasonable person would see, through these statements, that something's up. If you ask say, a Christian to say she doesn't support Westboro or a Muslim to say she doesn't support ISIS or a white person to say that she doesn't support the KKK and they can't seem to be willing to distinguish the two, what does that say about the person's beliefs? We've even seen this before, even here in WOWS. I asked people if they would acknowledge Nazi war crimes and their roles in the Holocaust. The answer I received was silence. Would it really be unfair for me to think this person is a Holocaust denier if they refuse to answer a simple question like that? It's true that the overzealous player base went digging for tweets because they don't like a particular person. Again, having followed this industry, I can still say this is nowhere close to say, some of the anime-related controversies I've seen over there (a particular director's hilarious two day marathon tweet feud with a bunch of people that can't speak his language comes to mind). In the end, a developer cares about their bottom line. They're a corporation. Artists have been fired over less controversial topics before, but there are cases where developers (even these ones) chose to stand up on behalf of their artists. GF again had a massive social media fallout a few months ago where the artists came to the defense of one of their own. I can't say much about AL's developers, but GF's developers are legendary for their inability to communicate and manage their players. They're greedy and everyone knows it. But, what prompted me to post after months of absence is that there is a sort of snide superiority within the KC fandom that I really don't like. It's resting on KC's laurels and automatically dismissing other games as inferior. It's now 2018. Three, four years after this thread started initially. To suggest that the Chinese "knock-offs" or other mobile games haven't had the chance to improve themselves and to have something the developers can learn from is simply burying your head in the sand. This is the first time this thread has seen substantial discussion of anything in weeks to my observation, and will be my last post on the matter. I'm willing to accept the misogynist accusation if in the next few months or years more explicit evidence shows up, but I think it's actually kind of funny since this really isn't my fight. In a very typical 'Murican sort of way I just passed by, saw a topic, and decided to be loud (as usual) about it. It's how we work. x) I'm personally very familiar with the sort of witch hunt you describe, since I've been on the receiving end for more than once. At the end of the day? Truth will win out.
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    We do have plans to hit a West Coast convention since I think we'll be hitting Boston fairly regularly now. I know Zero is thinking about headed over to LA at some point, but we're actually in Singapore and Shanghai for the same days Fanime is running. If we show up next year (say, Fanime 2019), we'll have our own Pacific books in tow (maybe vol. 2 in English, who knows), but a lot of our allies and collaborators have stopped drawing KanColle related stuff and moved mostly onto FGO. (At this point, our team is basically: Pacific and Pacific-related stuff (Navy foods, 2016, etc), collaborator works that we translate that tends to be KanColle related (e.g. Kannnu's stuff, the FETIBOX bikini/swimsuit stuff), and then ... actual miliotaku stuff, uniformed girls with guns, which are mostly original creations. We went as dealer twice I think at Boston. The kind of stuff we carry (like, dozens of different kinds of books) basically qualifies us as mini publisher. xD Zero says it's kind of flattering and also entertaining to be in the same room with professionals and other big companies, but we're fairly used to it at this point. The interesting thing here, too, is that from our observations, most people in America sell prints (artwork) or other handicraft goods. Books are comparatively rarer in contrast to the Asiatic conventions. We're gonna see if we can help make indie publishing more affordable here in America now that we've started to secure operations.) If you go to Fanime this year, we'd love to get some more scouting feedback, both on the KC and not-KC related stuff. Zero's basically running this as a full-time job (someone's paying him to do what he did before xD) so we'd really appreciate it.
  3. tincancarrier

    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Personally, from someone who's been here since the earliest days, the ... entire last event feels a bit anticlimactic. I've spent the last few weeks slowly writing this, but only managed to finish it now. This was supposed to be the big event that sends us off to the next generation of KanColle. There's a surprising number of people who's been around for years. I still remember the Kagero light novels that created a rich world that drew me in to well, create Pacific. There's other works too. Like the 0423 incident series that's basically how a "serious" KanColle work should be, or the lighthearted 30 year yuubari or the really cute chibi Haruna stuff. My own preferences for Fist of the North Star and the ManColle parodies. This game had a lot of good memories for me, but for some reason, there's no glow left. I think part of it is the inherent design flaws within the game. I struggled badly as an old, semi-retired player. I can't imagine a new player getting into this game and get much out of it at all. The game is old, and there are a lot of QoL stuff that they desperately need and they aren't getting. Part of my bitterness is that during E7, my browser crashed twice. You know what happens to this game if you crash. Is it really too much to ask for them to fix this particular issue, with what's how long some of these maps are? I mean, Intrepid is disappointing to a lot of players. You can see from the level of fanart she has on Pixiv. Call me American bias, but compared to Iowa or Saratoga or any of the other large foreign shipgirls, her response is really underwhelming. I think it speaks to the slow and gradual decline of KanColle. It did squander an awful lot of opportunity, but they were making more than enough money anyways, so I don't see why Tanaka would really want to change. I guess I'm ... let down? I really don't feel like this was satisfying. You can look at my earlier posts, particularly in the 2014-2016 era, to see how I felt about this game. I understand mentally that the "theme" is excellent - to bring back victory on dawn's horizon. It's a fitting conclusion to KanColle's first five-year era. It's just, for some reason, it doesn't speak to me like it used to. That's alright, though, I don't think the game'll miss one more old player. Most of my friends have moved onto other games and other interests. Maybe their revival/recreation of whatever the next phase of KanColle would be enough to bring me back. We'll see. I'll still lurk this thread too. For now? I have my own little world to tend to, and another adventure to continue. I still need to answer What Makes the Sky Blue, after all. ;)
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    I think it's less that the old regulars have dropped off the radar, and more so that KanColle itself is not really ... how do I want to put it, utilizing its resources to its potential. There isn't really that many new things that's happening. The actual lack of content pertaining to an official narrative is turning out to be a detriment as fans simply move on, create their own stuff, or stop following the world at large. I log in maybe 3-4 times a year to play the events these days. KanColle's quality of voice acting and historical research remains excellent, but there simply isn't much to talk about. I don't know if the player base has actually grown here in the west (doesn't really seem like it - it seems that people have just switched one community for another), but in the east (where we run most of our doujinshi operations, for instance) it's taking beatings from both the KanColle clone/competitors and well, other mobile games. FGO being the biggest one. The other thing here, specific to this thread, is I think, given the amount of real-life events that has happened recently (we can start with a certain referendum in 2016 :P), people are a lot less reluctant to voice their opinions on history. This thread has had a very healthy degree of diverse opinions, but I don't think given the increased amounts of forum moderation and the current climate people are really willing to speak freely. Not quite a death-spiral of lack of activity, but finally, the lack of a "lead" or someone who could drive pages and pages of discussion probably also contributes to the gradual decline. That last one I don't really know how to fix, since the first is out of our control, and the second depends on whether or not people are willing to put their own opinions out for others to see.
  5. tincancarrier

    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    A lot of high-end players are literally giving up on the event. Like this guy, for instance. He's a high ranking (I think like, one of the topmost players across the entire community.) "This is impossible." the #1 Chinese player on NGA is literally joking for a hot-fix to patch Missouri in so that "we can surrender already. At least we'll get a hot meal from the PoW camps." Ditto with another Chinese streamer (currently #1 or so on Maizuru) whose reaction has been turned into a meme. "Where is the instrument of surrender? Where is Missouri? I'll sign it! I'll sign it god damn it!" I'm ... sitting this one out too. xD
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Whoever called Gambier Bay was right on the money.
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Maybe next year they'll figure out a way to update the UI and the quest system.
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Yeah, I got the Tatsuda upgrade too. The irony is that she's been leveled solely off of expeditions. Still, haven't had much motivation to log in these days. I think they weren't kidding about KanColle being active now 4 times a year. xD
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Right, with Zero still in Japan I've got some stats that people might be interested in. It appears that the demise of KanColle is greatly exaggerated. Despite Azur Lane's runaway popularity, it hasn't really made a dent on KanColle's numbers. Currently, based on information I have on hand, the doujin group are: Type-Moon (Fate-related stuff) (2029) KanColle (1856) Idolmaster (1644) Touhou (1215) Touken Ranbou (1051) Everything else is sub-1000 range. What was interesting was that by actual number of doujins made, Azur Lane (broke into top 30, approximately ~250 or so books, which is still very impressive) really is driven by porn. So far it looks like its R18 proportion is about close to 70%. KanColle's is about 50-50 these days. Now, KanColle did lose ~400 circles (especially since many circles like us technically are now running both), and the decline is pretty interesting. However, it seems like Touhou is dropping even more by that margin, so I guess the target's on TM-stuff now.
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Double post, sorry.
  11. tincancarrier

    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    We run their operations in China, so yes, we have all of his stuff. x) Sure! We'll be there with the first volume of our Pacific navy foods historical book. If you guys want stuff from CM just message me and I'll pass word to our ground team.
  12. tincancarrier

    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Someone made a gif. Looks amazingly cute. (If only Tanaka can devote more resources to the browser game, but we all know the money-maker's the Arcade xD)
  13. tincancarrier

    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    With KanColle's income they have no excuse for the quality of the event programming. Character-wise, they release at slightly slower speeds than direct competitors as a whole. FGO tends to introduce 1 to 2 new servants for people to whale on per month, for instance. We just get our characters in batches of 2-5. The new Akizuki looks really good but I have 0 motivation to actually go play the event to get to her. Especially not when the event is difficult. If KanColle isn't going to keep the casuals like me, then it's going to turn into a more "hardcore" oriented game. It's something that they should do given that hardcore players will whale for probably consumables, but their system isn't really optimized for it. The lack of gacha is a double-edged sword, after all. ;)
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    Kantai Collection Discussion Thread Kai

    Meh. You guys go through this one first.
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