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    I live on the great lakes so first and formost im obbsessed with Great Lakes Freighters. My great grandfather served abord the Tirpitz so naturally I was exposed to WWII history as a young child and ive become obsessed with that as well. I accell specifically in naval history. I am a modeller and have over 80 military models in my collection, i am also obsessed with aesthetics, as a modeller you have to be. At first I went to school to become a pastor before switching to a welding degree.
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  1. My vote is for Hans Langsdorff
  2. SS Meteor is the last surviving Whaleback ship in the world. I happen to live just across the street from it.
  3. Couldn't tell ya. I don't see it either. :/
  4. One could argue that the advantages that they get are compensated for by having very low hitpoints. In either event that at least makes up for the low citadels.
  5. "USN calculations compared the protection afforded by the German armor layout of Bismarck against the penetration power of the 16/45 American AP shell. The results reflected an immunity zone for the German propulsion plant from 11,000m to 21,000m. The protection was even more impressive over the magazines, as they were immune from penetration from 25,000m to point blank range." - Bismarck and Tirpitz By Steve Backer When Bismarck and Tirpitz were completed, that was the biggest-badest AP shell there was. If they were effectively protected from those shells, again, the best the Allies had at the time, from within 21km its hardly fair to say that the effectiveness of the turtleback, or the armor scheme, in general, was "greatly exaggerated".
  6. He's referring specifically to the Canadian ones... Canada has never saved any of its Lakers as Museum ships, unlike America. Also, you forgot the SS Meteor. ;)
  7. And that is represented by Nelson. KGV, however, had a deck atop her torpedo bulkhead (which did not extend up to the main deck) under which were her vitals. Ths is represented in-game by a 13mm Splinter deck below the main armor deck, right where it should be. Therefore, KGV's Citadel is not artificially lowered... its right where it should be. This is repeated with the higher tiers.
  8. It is also because of the Republican Party that shipping on the Lakes is up 18% this year over last year thanks to the fact that President Trump wants everything built with American Steel. Concerning the Jones Act... "The Jones Act restricts the carriage of goods and passengers between U.S. ports to vessels built and flagged by the U.S. and crewed predominantly by Americans. As a result, domestic shipping in the U.S. is more expensive to consumers, who lack competitive options, as well as to shipping owners, who must pay more for their ships and have higher personnel costs, due to higher employee wages and benefits. Meanwhile, since World War II, and despite the intent of the Jones Act, U.S. shipyards have been on the decline. As of 2011, there were only five public domestic shipyards in the U.S. and 20 private ones. Of 171 privately owned U.S. flagged ships, 93 were Jones Act-eligible, and 73 could be categorized as militarily useful. Between 2006 and 2011, the Jones Act-eligible fleet shrank by just over 17 percent, with the number of each vessel type in that category falling, sometimes by a significant amount. If the Jones Act is intended to maintain the health of the commercial shipbuilding industry, then the shrinking U.S. merchant fleet demonstrates that the Act has been a failure in that regard. The Jones Act is also intended to protect national defense by developing and sustaining a merchant marine force. However, the U.S. government has other tools to ensure a sufficient private merchant vessel fleet without the Jones Act. Defenders of the Jones Act must explain why national security goals could not be achieved through other means. As for the effect on consumers, the U.S. International Trade Commission has estimated that reform or repeal of the Jones Act could yield an annual economic gain of between $5 and $15 billion. The economic burden of the Jones Act is felt nationwide, often in unexpected ways, but the highest burden is felt by the non-contiguous territories (including Guam, Puerto Rico, Alaska and Hawaii), which more than the rest of the U.S. depend on shipping for provision of their goods." Still, with President Trump putting such a big emphasis on "Made in America" It's unlikely the Jones Act will be going anytime soon, economic burden or not. Sorry, you started it.
  9. Something like that... the last Laker Canada ever built was the Paterson of 1985. After she was launched the Collingwood shipyard closed for good. This.. used to be this...
  10. Most of the Citadel placements/toughness make sense, actually. German battleships had turtlebacks IRL and were very well protected at normal combat ranges (15-25km) because of it. Wargaming did not make this up. It was not wargaming giving German battleships specials "flavors" or balancing them differently, German battleships are hard to Citadel at closer ranges in-game because they were hard to citadel at closer ranges IRL. In most cases, the Citadel of any ship in-game is placed directly under the lowest armor deck. Therefore, a ship who's lowest armor deck was at or below the waterline IRL will have a Citadel height at or near the waterline IRL. It wouldn't make sense to extend the citadel above the lowest armor deck anyways as no warship had any of its vitals above this lowest deck. The British battleships having below-the-waterline citadels is not so much of a balancing gimmick/feature on Wargaming's behalf as it is a nod to British battleships having low armor decks IRL (more so the early ones than the latter ones). And below-the-waterline citadels did not start with British BBs either... just look at Jurien, her citadel is so far below the waterline she might as well not even have one! To model citadels above the lowest armor deck would suggest that the ship's vitals extended above that deck as well... and that would be unrealistic and frankly quite silly. In either event, British BBs pay for having low citadels by having much fewer hitpoints than other battleships in their tier.
  11. Greetings all, As promised, here's the Canadian list... 10 - Halifax: Built in 1962 as the Frankcliffe Hall, this 730'02" bulk freighter was converted into a self-unloader in 1980. Unfortunately, this beauty was sold for scrap in 2011. As a straight-decker As a self-unloader 9 - Leymoyne: When she was completed in 1926 she was the largest ship on the lakes, measuring in at 633' long. She was to have been the flagship for the Great Lakes Transportation Co. Ltd but she was so expensive to build that she drove that company bankrupt and the company was bought out by Canada Steamship Lines Ltd before the ship even completed her sea-trials. A straight-decker her entire life, she was scrapped in 1969 at the very young age of 43. 8 - J.W. Shelly: This gorgeous 730' Canadian straight-decker was launched in 1968 as the Algocen and sailed under that name until 2005 when she was sold to a Recycling company out of New Jersey and renamed Valgocen. She would spend 3 years as a spoils barge before being sold back to Canada. The ship was purchased by the brand new Vanguard Shipping Ltd which had just secured a 5-year agreement with a large Canadian grain handler and needed a ship to carry all the grain. In 2012 Vanguard shipping went bankrupt and sold the J.W. Shelly to yet another shipping company that renamed her Phoenix star. She would operate under that name for less than a year before that company also went bankrupt and the ship was finally sold for scrap. 7 - Algomarine: Another 730' Canadian bulker of 1968-vintage, Algomarine, originally a straight decker under the name of Lake Manitoba, was converted to a self-unloader in 1988. We said goodbye to this fair lady just last year. Many were upset to see her go. As a straight-decker As a self-unloader 6 - Canadian Mariner: Built in 1963 and measuring 730' in length she wasn't particularly special other than the fact that she was very good looking. She was sold for scrap at the end of the 2002 shipping season, a victim of the poor ore economy at that time. 5 - Algoma Montrealis: Completed in 1962 she would remain a straight-decker all her life and would finish her career in 2015 as one of the last operating Steamships on the Great Lakes. Another ship that I greatly miss seeing. 4 - Canadoc: Built by the Patterson & Sons fleet in 1961 this 605' straight-decker graced the Lakes with her charming good look and prominent bridge structure until she was sold for scrap in 1990. 3 - Manitoulin: Not to be confused with the brand new Manitoulin which just entered service on the lakes a year ago, this gorgeous 1966-vintage self-unloader was arguably one of the most beautiful self-unloaders ever to sail the lakes. Too bad she was scrapped in 2002 at the very young age of just 46... 2 - E.B. Barber: Built in 1953 the E.B. Barber may be the smallest ship on this list at just 574' in length... but she is definetely one of the best looking boats ever to come out of a Canadian shipyard. She was converted into a self-unloader in 1964 and scrapped in 1985 after only 32 years in service. Gone way too soon! As a straight-decker As a self-unloader 1 - Red Wing: Red wing and her two sisters featured very big, bold, curved brides and were very good looking indeed. Built in 1960 and sold for scrap in 1984 her short 24 year life robbed many people of beeing able to see this magnificent beauty! Oh if only she were still around today...
  12. yep, when the ship uses all its horns (usually 2, one lesser horn up front and one bigger/deeper horn in the rear) it sounds great, when it only uses one it sounds... not as great... Anyway, if you want more, check this out... (Edward L Ryerson is at the 6 minute mark)
  13. As a visual aid.... The Ryerson at 730' long is just 2' longer than the North Carolina and Kongo class battleships. The Joe Thompson at 712' long is just 2' longer than the Battleship Nelson. Wilfred Sykes is just 9' shorter than the South Dakota class battleships. John G Munson and Kaye E Barker are both just 4' shy of Scharnhorst's length. The C4s are 5' shy of USS Arizona's length. Roger Blough is nearly identical to Yamato in all three length, width and depth.
  14. You'd still have a 530' yacht, even after removing 200'!
  15. Here is a picture of Roger Blough using her self-unloading boom... When not in use, it is retracted back inside the stern... The amount of extension is also adjustable, here it just barely sticks out....