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Crag_r #1 Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

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Just a bit on the evolution of the Aircraft carrier.


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Cool.

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Pretty good thing you found there Crag +1

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just 1 Nimitz class would probably have defeated the IJN in about 1 month.

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View PostJager_Panther1, on 22 December 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

just 1 Nimitz class would probably have defeated the IJN in about 1 month.

Probably up to a few hours depending on where it was based. (Nuclear missiles on the F-18s are indeed cheating)  :Smile_trollface:


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View PostCrag_r, on 22 December 2012 - 02:51 AM, said:

Probably up to a few hours depending on where it was based. (Nuclear missiles on the F-18s are indeed cheating)  :Smile_trollface:
Umm... no they aren't, Oh god I can think of what would have happened with all 10 of the Nimitz class Carriers in the Pacific and Atlantic Theaters the war would have been over in just a few hours.

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View PostCrag_r, on 22 December 2012 - 02:51 AM, said:

Probably up to a few hours depending on where it was based. (Nuclear missiles on the F-18s are indeed cheating)  :Smile_trollface:

i gave it a month, just so that it could find all of the IJN ships. Sinking all of them would likely take only a day (no nuclear missiles aloud)

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interesting video (+1)

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View PostJager_Panther1, on 22 December 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

i gave it a month, just so that it could find all of the IJN ships. Sinking all of them would likely take only a day (no nuclear missiles aloud)

Hmm, with AWACS Aircraft i would them a week


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Great video +1, I remember watching this ages ago on TV.

While we're on the subject of carrier construction, here's a few chunks of our new Queen Elizabeth class carrier.
http://gcaptain.com/...an-_D3S0384.jpg

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It'll be the UK's first traditional carrier since the HMS Ark Royal (Audacious class), and a welcome change from it's capable but small predecessor the Invincible class.

It is a pity that it got beaten bloody by the ugly stick, what's with the stupid twin islands. And it looks like a lego project, so I guess the British designers were all drunk after designing the funky Type-45 DD. Any chance you American's can sell us a few second hand Nimitz carriers on the cheap when you get your Gerald Fords? :Smile_teethhappy:

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Almost as bad as Australia, we are getting new Canberra class Landing Helicopter Docks / amphibious assault ships but with ski jumps for Aircraft as well, even though the RAN has no plans for Aircraft that can operate off them :Smile_unsure:
http://www.navy.gov....ept_Cutaway.jpg

We really should have bought HMS Hermes when we had the chance  :Smile_sad:


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View PostCrag_r, on 22 December 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:

Almost as bad as Australia, we are getting new Canberra class Landing Helicopter Docks / amphibious assault ships but with ski jumps for Aircraft as well, even though the RAN has no plans for Aircraft that can operate off them :Smile_unsure:
http://www.navy.gov....ept_Cutaway.jpg

We really should have bought HMS Hermes when we had the chance  :Smile_sad:

Hasnt Australia expressed interest in the F-35?
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View PostCrag_r, on 22 December 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:

Almost as bad as Australia, we are getting new Canberra class Landing Helicopter Docks / amphibious assault ships but with ski jumps for Aircraft as well, even though the RAN has no plans for Aircraft that can operate off them :Smile_unsure:
http://www.navy.gov....ept_Cutaway.jpg

We really should have bought HMS Hermes when we had the chance  :Smile_sad:
WTF that's more like a super sized Helo pad and Amphibious Attack vessel more then Aircraft Carrier, WTH are the Aussies doing.

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View PostEl3m3nttt, on 22 December 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

WTF that's more like a super sized Helo pad and Amphibious Attack vessel more then Aircraft Carrier, WTH are the Aussies doing.

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View PostDeadnought, on 22 December 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

Great video +1, I remember watching this ages ago on TV.

While we're on the subject of carrier construction, here's a few chunks of our new Queen Elizabeth class carrier.
http://gcaptain.com/...an-_D3S0384.jpg

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It'll be the UK's first traditional carrier since the HMS Ark Royal (Audacious class), and a welcome change from it's capable but small predecessor the Invincible class.

It is a pity that it got beaten bloody by the ugly stick, what's with the stupid twin islands. And it looks like a lego project, so I guess the British designers were all drunk after designing the funky Type-45 DD. Any chance you American's can sell us a few second hand Nimitz carriers on the cheap when you get your Gerald Fords? :Smile_teethhappy:

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I don't think so, those damn things costed us a few billion to make so I don't think we'll sell them cheap, maybe half of the original price of construction MAYBE.

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View PostWindhover118, on 22 December 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

What the aussies do best?
...The Aussies have no clue what an AIRCRAFT Carrier does then.

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View PostWindhover118, on 22 December 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

Hasnt Australia expressed interest in the F-35?

We are getting a few squadrons worth of the A version (Standard takeoff) plus manufacturing parts of it, allthough our current government does believe that we need to actually spend money on defense though  :Smile_sceptic:


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El3m3nttt #19 Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:31 AM

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View PostCrag_r, on 22 December 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

We are getting a few squadrons worth of the A version (Standard takeoff) plus manufacturing parts of it, allthough our current government does believe that we need to actually spend money on defense though  :Smile_sceptic:
That Jet Fighter can be used as a defensive unit, so WTH is with them saying "Oh lets waste money on laser pointers instead of a Jet that can be used as both Offensive and Defensive"

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View PostCrag_r, on 22 December 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:

We really should have bought HMS Hermes when we had the chance  :Smile_sad:

Tis a great 'what if' question. However despite the fact I have a soft spot for HMS Hermes, imho not buying Hermes during the early 80s was the right decision for Australia. If the Australia government had replaced HMAS Melbourne with HMS Hermes, what they would have done is replace a ship which was laid down in 1943, with a ship which was laid down in 1944. Your country would have been replacing an old ship with an old ship. Hermes also needed a crew of around 1200, which is a huge slice of RAN manpower for just one ship

Hermes is still ticking as INS Viraat, but she appears to spend a lot of time in dock having refits now.

View PostEl3m3nttt, on 22 December 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

WTF that's more like a super sized Helo pad and Amphibious Attack vessel more then Aircraft Carrier, WTH are the Aussies doing.
This may shock you...but not every country has the money or the manpower to build and crew 11x 100,000 ton nuclear supercarriers. :tongue: