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Bronco #41 Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:11 PM

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View PostRivertheRoyal, on 19 May 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

 

Occam's razor. 

You're overthinking this whole thing. This is just something OP saw, and decided to comment on. So, the whole alt account thing is a little farfetched. 

As well, I don't believe anyone's being named and shamed here—which is when someone is purposefully singled out by username in order to accomplish an end which is harmful to a players reputation or mental well-being.

The focus of this thread is on the unnamed BB player, and not the one who called him out.

 

No, rather, the focus of this thread is on the practice some BB players have of sitting at their max range, and how some people don't listen. It's calling attention to those issues, and not the identity of the BB player, or the one who initially called him out on this practice.   

 

 

(Oh, and alt accounts are now allowed by WG, so there's that...)  

 

 

Most people use that mod on the lower tiered USN BBs. It gives you a little more flexibility.

The problem, however, is when people then stick to that max range, and don't move any closer. As demonstrated in the OP.   

 

I will admit my initial reaction might have been a bit of a knee jerk reaction and for that, I do apologize to the OP. I do see value in the discussion of BBs keeping their distance too long and not adjusting to the flow of the battle. If I offended anyone else, I apologize. There's enough toxicity in these forums at times, no need for me to heap on more. My bad.

 

EDIT: And thank you for pointing out that alt accounts are now allowed. I wasn't aware. 


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View PostWowzery, on 19 May 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

I will admit, I stick the artillery plotting room mod on my NY to boost the range.  But then again, I know my game usually goes like this.  Snipe at the beginning as the battle shapes up.  Then try to close in and brawl.  Guess that's why I love the USN line so much, they do both.  I've deleted CA at max range and brawled German BBs up close in the same game.

For me, while its bad a USN is doing it, its not as bad as seeing a German BB stay at max range and snipe.  That player really has no idea how to play their ship.

 

i dont see a problem with using that mod on mid tier US BBs.  One of the worst feelings one can have in the game is when you are being shot at and cant fight back.  Getting the NY to 18km? range or something like that gave you a chance to fight back when you are constantly thrown in tier 7 matches.  same goes for the NM.  16km? or so odd range made it a pain to use when you were being shot at from people 17km+ away.  Now, they have changed the ranges on a lot of ships since i played those so perhaps they aren't as useful or necessary now. 

 

19km is all you really need on any BB.  Any farther than that and your chances of hitting are pretty slim on average.  to me, that is the max of your effective firing range.  any farther out and you are just looking for random things to shoot at while moving up/around,   i prefer to shoot things 17km or under.(10-15 is the sweet spot)  i feel like all those range upgrades for BBs are useless in higher tiers for the reasons i gave.  



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Yup most BB players are trash at this game. Put them in anything thing else and watch them die and do nothing in the first 3 mins of a match. Hell it was horrible watching all the BBaddies try and claw their way up the french cruiser line. The only thing keeping them going is that BB's are so overpowered that a blind person could sail them and do damage, just throw him in a secondaries speced Bismarck and watch him go!

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It'd be ok if that tactic/style/mentality were rare but in most games I play there is always at least 1 BB operating this way and it's absolutely why there is "the hate" generally.

Just keep in mind these are the same people WG is continually "tuning" the game for and it really makes you want to drown kittens.


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View PostRivertheRoyal, on 19 May 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

 

Only 23.6km? 

No, this type of person will likely fit the range mod, and sit even further back. 

 

And spotter plane, don't forget that.

 

Who the hell even uses a spotter plane past tier 8?


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View PostValkyrWarframe, on 19 May 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

 

And spotter plane, don't forget that.

 

Who the hell even uses a spotter plane past tier 8?

 

I do, its good for shooting ships sitting in smoke, which is very common in higher tiers.  I have citted a lot of ships, and even killed a few that were siting in smoke.  Even just hitting them or hitting near them can unsettle them.

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View Postscerviche178, on 19 May 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

Yup most BB players are trash at this game. Put them in anything thing else and watch them die and do nothing in the first 3 mins of a match. Hell it was horrible watching all the BBaddies try and claw their way up the french cruiser line. The only thing keeping them going is that BB's are so overpowered that a blind person could sail them and do damage, just throw him in a secondaries speced Bismarck and watch him go!

 

*ahem* The fact that you think that BBs are OP, shows that you rarely play them. If you've ever played the USN BBs, specifically the mid tier dreadnaughts, you'll know how untrue that actually is. The thing is, with a large amount of BBs in the game, they require a large amount of situational awareness. An unawares BB, is nothing more than DD/CV food. And a USN mid tier BB that finds themselves out of place and engaging 2 or more enemy ships alone, is essentially dead, unless they are either very lucky, or extremely good at what they're doing. An average player in that kind of situation will get over run and sunk quickly.

 

And checking your stats (mind you, I'm not stat shaming) it seems you've really only ever played the German BBs, with a couple IJN here and there, so I can see where you might have gotten the whole "BBs are OP" from. Try playing the USN mid tier BBs, like the New York, the New Mexico/Arizona, and the Colorado before saying that BBs are OP and that even a blind person can do very well in them.

 

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What makes a bad BB captain is when 90% of the time, they show you their broadside. 'Cause I just gotta shoot a full salvo all the time! This game is just like WoT, if you want to survive, you have to angle.

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View Postscerviche178, on 19 May 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Yup most BB players are trash at this game. Put them in anything thing else and watch them die and do nothing in the first 3 mins of a match. Hell it was horrible watching all the BBaddies try and claw their way up the french cruiser line. The only thing keeping them going is that BB's are so overpowered that a blind person could sail them and do damage, just throw him in a secondaries speced Bismarck and watch him go!

 

Of course the same can be said for putting a pure DD driver into a BB.  Watch them not know how to play a BB.  They will be sneaking around, hiding behind the islands, in fact, it almost sounds like the NY player in the OPs original statement could have been a DD driver who doesn't know how to play a BB.  Simple fact is you cannot play a BB like a CA, or a DD.  Each requires a different approach.  As a BB main I accept I'll be targeted, I accept I will be hit, and hit often.  I take that mentally and play a DD, I'll sink quickly.  So was I bad, or was I playing a ship wrongly?

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The interesting thing about WOWS is that there is a bit of a forced natural selection to the learning curve - eventually, as they move up in tiers, the camping long range BB players are going to either:

 

- Learn because the DD play will get better & they'll lick their chops at camping BBs as they put flanking torp spreads into them

- Learn because fire spamming CLs/CAs will be licking their chops and burn them down

- Learn because flanking BBs and even CAs will take huge chunks of health in a salvo.

- Flame in chat about how DDs & CLs are OPd and need to be nerfed or BB health pools need buffing or leave the game because the balance is whacked and unfair....

 

I'm truly hoping for the process to play out with one of the 1st 3 options.

 

 

 



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View PostPeregrinas, on 19 May 2017 - 09:54 AM, said:

 

People can't learn if they are too stuck-up to take criticism.

 

cant believe im saying this, but hes right, ive seen these sort of people make threads, asking a question, gets answers, refuses to listen to the helpful answers given, they are known as the "lost causes" here

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View Posthangglide42, on 19 May 2017 - 10:02 AM, said:

The interesting thing about WOWS is that there is a bit of a forced natural selection to the learning curve - eventually, as they move up in tiers, the camping long range BB players are going to either:

 

- Learn because the DD play will get better & they'll lick their chops at camping BBs as they put flanking torp spreads into them

- Learn because fire spamming CLs/CAs will be licking their chops and burn them down

- Learn because flanking BBs and even CAs will take huge chunks of health in a salvo.

- Flame in chat about how DDs & CLs are OPd and need to be nerfed or BB health pools need buffing or leave the game because the balance is whacked and unfair....

 

I'm truly hoping for the process to play out with one of the 1st 3 options.

 

 

 

 

Negative, there are a lot of bad BB players STILL in the high tiers.  They have managed to potato their way up to Yamato/Montanas/GKs, then come to the forums to complain about invisible DDs, CA HE spam (or minotaur), and CVs touching them.

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BAD NAME? In the eyes of whom?  Those who Sail BB's Are Good People. Those who complain about BB's are self absorbed idiots.

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View PostBronco, on 19 May 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

Am I the only one to notice that this entire toxic chat exchange was initiated by the OP during a match in which they were winning handedly. OP, why did you feel the need to harass your fellow teammates in a clearly won battle? Cry wolf much??

 

Not to mention guy sailing the no life leet clubber ragging on new york.  And long range when other team is two tier close range BB is a mostly no win.  Regardless not the best position to be in.  Solo vs with team, but moot point when rabble ranting [edited]assisting.  Call him idiot, your point already done cause wont care what you say.  Right or not.

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View PostThe_first_harbinger, on 19 May 2017 - 12:24 PM, said:

well...people got to learn somehow..

sooner or later, he will find out that he actually will take more damage at long range while his guns will never hit the target.

 

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Just going to say something.

 

I happily will TK idiots that think their Battleship belongs at 20km+ (barring Tier X because they can OHK Cruisers from there) when they have the local advantage

 

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