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MJPIA #1 Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:18 PM

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Was browsing Aliexpress and one thing led to another and I ended up impulse buying Bismarck.

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I've never built one of these before in my life so naturally my first one has to be something complicated.

Sooooo what am I getting myself into here?

Anyone built this model before?



Lert #2 Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:21 PM

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Not for the faint of heart. I'm a seasoned plastic modeler, but I'm intimidated by the fiddlyness of those. Use tweezers, use pliers. And one of these:

 


(Above stats not guaranteed accurate. I'm a supertester and test ships don't always register correctly)

 

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Goose21891 #3 Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:30 PM

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No clue. Can't find any reviews of that kit.

 

 


kerensky914 #4 Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:39 PM

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View PostLert, on 16 May 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Not for the faint of heart. I'm a seasoned plastic modeler, but I'm intimidated by the fiddlyness of those.

Urf, same here.  I don't even begin to know how you put one of those together.  Super glue would be messy as hell when done, and I can't imagine what all I'd stick my fingers to.  Model glue would be useless.  Anyone got a tiny welder? :D


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View Postkerensky914, on 16 May 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

Urf, same here.  I don't even begin to know how you put one of those together.  Super glue would be messy as hell when done, and I can't imagine what all I'd stick my fingers to.  Model glue would be useless.  Anyone got a tiny welder? :D

Apparently it's just supposed to snap together or "Insert slot A in to Tab B" from what little I've found about the Bismarck kit


 

 


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View PostGoose21891, on 16 May 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Apparently it's just supposed to snap together or "Insert slot A in to Tab B" from what little I've found about the Bismarck kit

 

Looks that way.  I found a few kits on Amazon.  One was a Batmobile, and here's a review I copied from there:

SO COOL!!! I enjoy putting these together and have done about twenty of them, I am far from an expert and my first three ended up a wad of twisted metal, rage and profanity with a one star rating. There is a special way to assemble because these are not typical models.
TIPS AND TRICKS:
Don’t waste your time with the special tool sets or needle nose pliers (they didn’t work for me). I recommend getting tweezers with different tips. There are many times where you will be holding a piece with one set of tweezers and twisting/bending/inserting tabs with another and many times you have to reach tabs inside a small piece you have already made. Attempting to assemble this all by hand became impossible for me. Tweezer were needed.


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View PostGoose21891, on 16 May 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Apparently it's just supposed to snap together or "Insert slot A in to Tab B" from what little I've found about the Bismarck kit

 

I watched enough of this to know that if it was between this and getting my dangly bits stepped on by a cow in cleats, I would not hesitate to choose the cow.

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View Postkerensky914, on 16 May 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

Anyone got a tiny welder? :D

 

It's twist fit. Push tab A through slot B, twist tab A, and fitted.

(Above stats not guaranteed accurate. I'm a supertester and test ships don't always register correctly)

 

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Yoshiblue #9 Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:08 PM

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View PostGoose21891, on 16 May 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

Apparently it's just supposed to snap together or "Insert slot A in to Tab B" from what little I've found about the Bismarck kit

 

This is impressive. Quite something to watch unfold. 

Unabletony #10 Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:18 PM

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I have a metal model of Titanic, an Abrams tank, Empire State Building, and the Mellinium Falcon. I can tell that after doing the Falcon, it was easy for me to do the rest. Tweezers and an old unused cuticle cutter worked for me. Bend the part in a circle to twist it out, and use the cutter to snip apart any sharp edges. Bend down the tabs one they're on if they're showing, and twist them 180 if they're inside.

 

Also, I suggest before doing Bismarck, go out to.. maybe Barnes and Nobles, and buy the Empire State Building, or something relatively easy to grasp the idea.


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Vampirella #11 Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:24 PM

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Wow, this is nice .

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Such spectacular ambition! More so than I'll likely ever have...

 

Closest thing I ever purchased was a metal parts detailing kit for an F-14 Tomcat cockpit.

 

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vonKaiser #13 Posted 16 May 2017 - 10:22 PM

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only ones I've done are the less detailed models really. 

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It's on my desk at work so the above picture is what I could find.  I also did Darth Vaders Tie Fighter.  Did them at my desk at work on an overtime shift on a Saturday.  They're not...  Overly difficult...  But you have to follow the directions pretty closely.  Learned that lesson on the Tiger tank when I did the wheels wrong and had to take them back off to fix.  The small metal tabs do not like being bent more then once and are difficult to re-bend for fixing so gotta make sure it's right the 1st time. 

 

Biggest suggestion, Get a robust pair of hemostats.  I would put the tabs where they needed to be, grip the tab tight, click it and then twist 180 degrees.  This made the pieces sit tightly together with no slop or movement.  Same thing when you have to do the tabs that are bent over 90 degrees, grabbing and pulling with the hemostats first made sure everything was tight together with no gaps.  Hemostats are a life saver and the only way I can do them anymore TBH


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Funny thing about the welder comment is that there are some plastic kits that have photo etch that is easier to solder than glue. Dragon's original tooling for the 45.02(P)/ Porsche Tiger for example 

 

 


Inigo_M0ntoya #15 Posted 16 May 2017 - 10:29 PM

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I love these models!  I'm actually working on a USS Arizona right now but when I was introduced to them I had a bunch of vehicles from Star wars.  I have a tie fighter, ATAT, some X-wings, Star Destroyer and an adorable R2-D2.  They are quite challenging.  You'll probably need a pretty good magnifying glass (it helps if it is independently mounted on the table or something)  A good pair of very tiny needle nose pliers and some tweezers.  One tool that I like using is a bit of a mix.  Im sorry I dont know what its called it basically has handles like scissors, but a very fine tip that works like needle nose pliers.  If you have any idea what im talking about go and find some, they really help.  Dont mess up, before you start bending and twisting and breaking stuff make sure you have everything right, dont get ahead of yourself.  The little attachment tabs done like being bent more than once.  Measure twice, cut once.  Also that is a gorgeous aircraft in that hangar.  P-51?

 

Edit: The tool is called a hemostat. A surgical instrument.  If that's any indication of how tiny this stuff is, youre right.


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MJPIA #16 Posted 16 May 2017 - 10:33 PM

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Hmmm if I had to say this isn't the hardest thing in the world I've done but taking a tiny flat piece of metal and making it round while still having the tabs line up in the slots or accidentally crushing something is the devil.

Some 2 hours later:

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Good enough for today, I'll continue pecking at it later.

 

 


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This is really cool....

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paradat #18 Posted 16 May 2017 - 10:51 PM

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Hmm those look interesting. May have to give it a go.


 


MJPIA #19 Posted 17 May 2017 - 09:53 PM

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I'll just have y'all know that it is my unprofessional opinion that anyone who regularly makes these metal kits is a masochist.

And having tiny pieces spring out of pliers and launch across the floor is not exactly my definition of fun.

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Moving along.

You can tell what I started building first.

I shall call it the Leaning tower of Bismarck 


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Its generally a well made kit so far and didn't run into any issues until now but the superstructure walls don't fit right.

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Its slightly too long in the middle section and did not have a fold in the right place.

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Ended up cutting it at a fold and tucking in the excess inside, not ideal but didn't have a choice.

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Its slowly coming together.

Roughly 90 pieces put together and some 20'ish to go.

 

 


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