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AdmiralThunder #1 Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:50 PM

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Hey guys. Would appreciate a little of your time. I just got my 1st CV after 2000+ battles in the other ship types to try and get a feel for what you go through and also to see if I will like it. I think I did okay for my 1st game; sinking a BB and taking out all the enemy CV's fighters, torp planes, and most of it's bombers. Unfortunately it went downhill fast. I sort of got overwhelmed and didn't know what to do after the initial start.

 

After I attacked the enemy BB with my strike planes I am pretty sure I heard it say something about returning to ship and they went back that way. I know the bombers landed but for some reason the torp planes stopped going back at one point and I could NOT get them to land after. I think I accidentally changed their course. Would this in some way keep them from landing? I tried clicking the planes and then on the CV but it didn't do anything( little white triangle of circling arrows appeared )?

 

I am wondering though if maybe I was on fire? With so much going on I didn't pay enough attention to the map near the CV and let an enemy DD get too close. By the time I saw it sneaking through the islands and coming for me it was too late. The Langley is super slow and the DD came right in and torpedoed me. LOL

 

So questions are do the planes ALWAYS auto land when they need to rearm or is there some kind of manual command that is needed if you interrupt their return flight to the CV like I did? Does clicking on the planes and then the CV tell them to land if they can? I know when the CV is burning they can't( without a Capt skill I don't have right now )but I couldn't tell if I was or not and I could not get the torp planes to go back and land???? I was playing a game not long ago where a new CV player was chatting the same thing - couldn't land planes? I was right near him at the time and he was not on fire. How do you land?

 

Also, is there any way to get a normal ship view or are we stuck in the huge overhead map view? I mean a normal close up view like we have in the other ship types.  I would think dodging torps from the huge overhead view is going to be really hard. Can you go back to a normal view when needed?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

PS - I have watched some How To CV videos but they haven't covered these 2 things/situations. I did use some tactics I picked up that worked well though. 


Edited by AdmiralThunder, 28 April 2017 - 08:52 PM.


Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper #2 Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:59 PM

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1. At any time, you can press "F" and the squadron selected will return to the carrier.

 

2. You can press "1" and then "Z".


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AdmiralThunder #3 Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:08 PM

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Cool. Thank you. :honoring:

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A note: That little arrow triangle means "escort". Any ship or plane squad you select with it will be followed by the selected squad. With that, you can tell your DBs to follow your TBs, your fighters to guard your bombers or a friendly ship, etc. And yes, your fighters and bombers will automatically return to the carrier once they've expended all their ammunition. Also, just my two cents, but don't bother with the American CVs. The Japanese ones are on average just straight-up better, with FAR more balanced loadouts.

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From the OP:

 

After I attacked the enemy BB with my strike planes I am pretty sure I heard it say something about returning to ship and they went back that way. (Yes you did.  Strike planes automatically return to your cv after the drop, and fighters when they run out of ammo.) I know the bombers landed but for some reason the torp planes stopped going back at one point and I could NOT get them to land after. I think I accidentally changed their course. (Yes, you must have changed their course.  The torpless torp planes will head to their new destination, and circle there--might not be a bad idea if you needed them to spot a red DD though...) Would this in some way keep them from landing? I tried clicking the planes and then on the CV but it didn't do anything( little white triangle of circling arrows appeared )? (The triangle means that the planes will circle your ship, wherever your ship goes rather than just circling a point on a map.  As posted by Admiral Franz.. select squadron and press F anytime to return/land/rearm the planes to the cv)

 

I am wondering though if maybe I was on fire? (You would not see the white triangle, though your planes would still circle until the fire was out.)  With so much going on I didn't pay enough attention to the map near the CV and let an enemy DD get too close. By the time I saw it sneaking through the islands and coming for me it was too late. The Langley is super slow and the DD came right in and torpedoed me. LOL (If the DD is close enough that you can spot it on the minimap with your cv, then it is waaaay too close.  Before seeing the DD, however, you may have been detected by the DD, and your !Detected warning comes up.  Guess the direction, and start running the other way.  Also, sometimes you can see the situation developing on the minimap... i.e. west flank collapses, your cv isn't moving with the eastern flank ships, DD 'surprises' you from the west.)

 

So questions are do the planes ALWAYS auto land when they need to rearm or is there some kind of manual command that is needed if you interrupt their return flight to the CV like I did? (auto or "F") Does clicking on the planes and then the CV tell them to land if they can? (no)I know when the CV is burning they can't( without a Capt skill I don't have right now )(and don't bother to get it, as there are better skills to choose)but I couldn't tell if I was or not and I could not get the torp planes to go back and land???? I was playing a game not long ago where a new CV player was chatting the same thing - couldn't land planes? I was right near him at the time and he was not on fire. How do you land?

 

Also, is there any way to get a normal ship view or are we stuck in the huge overhead map view? I mean a normal close up view like we have in the other ship types.  I would think dodging torps from the huge overhead view is going to be really hard. Can you go back to a normal view when needed?(You're in a Langley, so you really can't dodge... overhead view is actually better than ship view for dodging though.  Ship view does give a better visual for ramming though)



AdmiralThunder #6 Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:14 PM

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Thanks for the responses.

 

I already got the USN T4 CV so I am going to stick with it to see if I even want to play CV long term. If I do I will try the IJN ones too.

 

Just a lot to get used to vs the regular ships. I have MS and my reaction time is a little slower than most so CV may not be for me but I will give it a try.

 

One a positive note I went and played some of my BB's a little while later and just tore it up. Seemed so easy to just WASD and shoot vs all you have to do in the CV. LOL

 

Thanks again.


Edited by AdmiralThunder, 28 April 2017 - 10:14 PM.


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Probably should start with IJN CV's. USN Cv's are for Masochists.

 

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View Postsaagri, on 28 April 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

Probably should start with IJN CV's. USN Cv's are for Masochists.

 

Like me!

 

Anyway, to answer your primary questions:
Yes, planes will automatically return to the carrier after they've dropped ordnance/ran out of ammunition. However, this can be overriden by giving them new orders. To override the override, simply press "F."

 

Also, there's a setting in the "Gameplay" section of your Esc->Settings tab, called "Disable "Shift" Key for Carriers." This is enabled by default, but it's a simple click of a button to disable it and enable Shift to Zoom on carriers.

 

Also, the USN aren't terrible: don't let the doom&gloom get you down. A Strike Essex with full-strength squadrons in the end-game is absolutely devastating. But they are HARD. The IJN, as things currently stand, get more squads, better configurations, and, in some cases, better squads, at the cost of requiring more micro-managing. The USN lack flexibility but are generally easier to manage.

 

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AdmiralThunder #9 Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:51 PM

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Thanks again. Still not sure if CV's are for me or not. Don't want to screw the team because it is too much for me( with the MS )even in a Co-op game. Will see how it goes and decide in a few games.

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View PostAdmiralThunder, on 29 April 2017 - 08:51 AM, said:

Thanks again. Still not sure if CV's are for me or not. Don't want to screw the team because it is too much for me( with the MS )even in a Co-op game. Will see how it goes and decide in a few games.

 

Well, just remember T4 and 5 are the training grounds. If anyone starts harassing you at those tiers, just tell them if they'd play their own tier instead of seal-clubbing, they'd get competent CVs.

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