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Blademaster95 #1 Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:08 PM

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Ok so what is the scoop on the french cruisers? I have heard alot of reviews about how bad they are lol. The top tier ship looks underwhelming, and tier 6 through 10 honestly dont seem that impressive. Is this line even worth doing? 

devastator5000 #2 Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:18 PM

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I'm having fun so far playing them, and they did buff them after the negative reviews


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aethervox #3 Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:33 PM

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There is a great deal of WG cheating with the Fre Cruisers.

Amazing how many shots miss them entirely.

All the good multi-shooter ships now amazingly miss.

Amazing how they manage to survive when they should be sunk.

Anyone think WG is playing the next favorite card with them?

What a stinking joke.



TTK_Aegis #4 Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:44 PM

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View Postaethervox, on 19 April 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

There is a great deal of WG cheating with the Fre Cruisers.

Amazing how many shots miss them entirely.

All the good multi-shooter ships now amazingly miss.

Amazing how they manage to survive when they should be sunk.

Anyone think WG is playing the next favorite card with them?

What a stinking joke.

 

Wait, so you're alleging a hidden shell dispersion increase when aiming at French ships? 

Is there any history of such a thing being done before or is this just pure reaction to RNG not favoring you for a few battles? 



Battleship_Dunkerque #5 Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:52 PM

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View PostTTK_Aegis, on 19 April 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Wait, so you're alleging a hidden shell dispersion increase when aiming at French ships? 

Is there any history of such a thing being done before or is this just pure reaction to RNG not favoring you for a few battles? 

 

It's as though you've never read one of his posts before...

TTK_Aegis #6 Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:54 PM

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View PostBattleship_Dunkerque, on 19 April 2017 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

It's as though you've never read one of his posts before...

 

I'm not sure if I have. I honestly don't commit most user names to memory. :D

GrandAdmiral_2016 #7 Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:45 PM

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In between the IJN and the RN. No smoke, decent HE and AP, respectable torpedoes from T3, lousy armor and good speed and manuverablity. They fit as is and will hold their own once players get the hang of it. At Friant and working to Duguay-Trouin in six battles total. Expect to get to La Galissonière and Algèrie in about 30 battles, as T7 is about as far as I will go in this line.

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View PostGrandAdmiral_2016, on 19 April 2017 - 09:45 PM, said:

In between the IJN and the RN. No smoke, decent HE and AP, respectable torpedoes from T3, lousy armor and good speed and manuverablity. They fit as is and will hold their own once players get the hang of it. At Friant and working to Duguay-Trouin in six battles total. Expect to get to La Galissonière and Algèrie in about 30 battles, as T7 is about as far as I will go in this line.

 

I agree. They just seem like solid longish range gun cruisers. Simple and obvious. 

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grizzly95 #9 Posted 22 April 2017 - 01:10 AM

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Skip the T5 and T6 imho. Both are garbage ships. Crap armor, crap guns with a painfully slow reload time and nowhere near enough maneuverability to make up for it. Sure, they have the speed but it doesn't matter because you cannot turn out of most shells in my experience in Emile. No one i have talked too has anything better to say about the T6. 

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View Postgrizzly95, on 22 April 2017 - 01:10 AM, said:

Skip the T5 and T6 imho. Both are garbage ships. Crap armor, crap guns with a painfully slow reload time and nowhere near enough maneuverability to make up for it. Sure, they have the speed but it doesn't matter because you cannot turn out of most shells in my experience in Emile. No one i have talked too has anything better to say about the T6. 

 

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View Postgrizzly95, on 22 April 2017 - 01:10 AM, said:

Skip the T5 and T6 imho. Both are garbage ships. Crap armor, crap guns with a painfully slow reload time and nowhere near enough maneuverability to make up for it. Sure, they have the speed but it doesn't matter because you cannot turn out of most shells in my experience in Emile. No one i have talked too has anything better to say about the T6. 

 

The tier 5 was pretty solid. I really enjoyed it and kept it. Tier 6 was "ok" but felt like a gimped tier 5 that saw higher tier ships. I hated the tier 7.

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View Postaethervox, on 19 April 2017 - 11:33 AM, said:

There is a great deal of WG cheating with the Fre Cruisers.

Amazing how many shots miss them entirely.

All the good multi-shooter ships now amazingly miss.

Amazing how they manage to survive when they should be sunk.

Anyone think WG is playing the next favorite card with them?

What a stinking joke.

 

View PostTTK_Aegis, on 19 April 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

 

Wait, so you're alleging a hidden shell dispersion increase when aiming at French ships? 

Is there any history of such a thing being done before or is this just pure reaction to RNG not favoring you for a few battles? 

 

​I don't think some people noticed the fact that the HE and AP have different shell velocities. (at least on the friant so far) So that makes aiming kinda awkward when you're trying to min-max your HE/AP useage. The spaced armor (that's actually a thing right?) actually does work aat the most troll times. You could have a french CL dead to rights broadside but your shells will only pen the first layer and count it as an "overpen" or shell shatters.

 

Sounds like he's not looking at the other side of the coin here. Both playing and shooting at I don't see any issues.


Edited by Vekta408, 23 April 2017 - 12:02 AM.


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The CAs (starts at T7) are pretty good.

 

I love the T8 in particular; it can equip Hydro, Speed Boost, and Catapult planes for some really aggressive rushes.  It also can outfit double Rudder shift modules and be an outright pain to hit (getting called out as a hacker for matrix dodging in a large cruiser was new).

 

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How's the La Galissonniere if anyone's gotten there yet? She looks like she might be a good ship but she appears to have a huge citadel.

Hold my beer and watch this!
 

 

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So far I have made it to Tier 5 and it is a painful grind.

 

French Cruisers have paper armor, seriously like 15mm, you can be penned by DD HE it's that bad.

You get set on fire alot.

Your rudder will break alot.

You turn slow and wide for a light cruiser.

You can post above average damage and still lose because the last ships will run you down and pen you to death.

You can not carry even 1 versus 1 against a same tier cruiser, because of paper armor and slow reload. Example Omaha 8.0 reload, Emile Bertin 12.5 reload.

 

Moderate success comes from kiting and HE spamming ships for fires. If you have DE even better.

But I find every other Tier 5 cruiser is better than the French one.

 


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View PostReddNekk, on 23 April 2017 - 04:32 AM, said:

How's the La Galissonniere if anyone's gotten there yet? She looks like she might be a good ship but she appears to have a huge citadel.

 

When Flamu reviewed that ship during Public Test, he really liked it, then Wargaming nerfed it's rate of fire from 7.5 second reload to 10 second reload and he free exp the ship.

 

 

 



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Hey

I started grinding the lower tier Brit cruiser line this weekend and have found the T1-T4 French cruisers to be easy to citadel; in fact I have had more citadels this weekend than in the last 6 months against everything else.  Looking forward to the mid-upper Tiers and see them in action.  They were a no-go for me; I'm doing Germans BBs/Cruisers/Low T Destroyers and now the Brit. Cruisers.  Wave the white flag for me on the French.

 

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Im not really a cruiser person myself, so i have been hesitant, i love BBS. only cruiser i have is the tier 10 russian CA moskva. and i love it. I just got the tier 8 french cruiser, any thoughts on how she will be?

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View Postsasquatch_research, on 23 April 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Hey

I started grinding the lower tier Brit cruiser line this weekend and have found the T1-T4 French cruisers to be easy to citadel; in fact I have had more citadels this weekend than in the last 6 months against everything else.  Looking forward to the mid-upper Tiers and see them in action.  They were a no-go for me; I'm doing Germans BBs/Cruisers/Low T Destroyers and now the Brit. Cruisers.  Wave the white flag for me on the French.

 

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British AP is almost the perfect weapon against the low-tier French cruisers, their short fuses are brilliant against the thin-skinned French cruisers.


 

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View PostReddNekk, on 22 April 2017 - 11:32 PM, said:

How's the La Galissonniere if anyone's gotten there yet? She looks like she might be a good ship but she appears to have a huge citadel.

 

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