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Octavious_Lockawett #21 Posted 17 April 2017 - 07:56 PM

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Personally I chose sometime ago to make my stats private. Not that I'm ashamed of my play or win ratio but any info you can deny your opponent aids you in battle. How so you ask? Well if someone sees you have a 80% win ration in a certain ship they may adjust their play accordingly. In other words it's the same reason us ole gear heads called a good car that was fast down the 1/8 of mile but didnt advertise that fact a sleeper. Be the sleeper, an unknown never let the enemy know you. I have seen matches were players were singled out right off by the team because they were thought to be the biggest threat. Stats are not everything as they can be padded and they are so many factors that play into the whole picture. I would say anyone that's played over 1000 games and are in higher tier mainline ships have a pretty good handle on the game. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day so never underestimate anyone no matter what anyone says. Most of all have fun don't sweat trash talk after all its just a game.

Gen_Jack_Oneil #22 Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:01 PM

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View PostOctavious_Lockawett, on 17 April 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:

Even a broken clock can be right twice a day so never underestimate anyone no matter what anyone says. Most of all have fun don't sweat trash talk after all its just a game.

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Stats have a place in the game, especially if you want play it in a competitive element and teams / guilds / clans, etc. want to be able to select the best players, but people who proceed to lecture you on how to play the game before the match even begins need to get over themselves and get a life. It's an anonymous free to play pixel ship game and anyone and everyone can play it. 
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Wulfgarn #24 Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:13 PM

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Block them, or just ignore them.

 

The only time you will see me bring stats into anything "in game" is simply when someone starts hounding me for whatever reason. Even then I usually just ignore them and report them without saying a word.

 


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View PostBravo_Zulu_000, on 17 April 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

Stats have a place in the game, especially if you want play it in a competitive element and teams / guilds / clans, etc. want to be able to select the best players, but people who proceed to lecture you on how to play the game before the match even begins need to get over themselves and get a life. It's an anonymous free to play pixel ship game and anyone and everyone can play it. 

I had 2 T7 ships at the begging of the last ranked season. i could have just went in and tried and probably failed. But i didnt play it, i didnt want to ruin the matches for those who are really good and let them down. So i sat it out. Maybe next season ill play it. 


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Zhoyzu #26 Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:16 PM

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Just ignore them. people who stat check others dont actually know how to properly utilize the information presented and then get upset.

Spyde #27 Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:17 PM

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OP. 

 

Just go to warships main site. login and look at your stats under players.

 

Select make Private.

 

There are mods that show stats for each player in the ship they are in, but hiding them blocks that.

 

 

Overall though.. Ignore stat shamers, block them or hide stats to completely avoid them.


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View PostBravo_Zulu_000, on 17 April 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

Stats have a place in the game, especially if you want play it in a competitive element and teams / guilds / clans, etc. want to be able to select the best players, but people who proceed to lecture you on how to play the game before the match even begins need to get over themselves and get a life. It's an anonymous free to play pixel ship game and anyone and everyone can play it. 

 

they should primarily be used to measure ones own progress and to assess ones strengths and weaknesses in the match. And while clans currently exist they are almost pointless as there is no functionality for them.

 

IMO clans should exist to cultivate and nurture players into better players rather than cherry picking players. *shrugs*



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People who think anyone's stats but their own are in any way important to them are stupid. Stats are to be a measure to oneself how one's improved and what one is good/bad at. If anyone acts like someone else's stats are their business, ignore them. They're one of the worst kinds of people inhabiting this game. 

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I'm one of those people that really doesn't care so much about stats. I do check my own every once in awhile, but I don't think that stats are the end all, be all of what a player is going to do. I've got ships that I either don't have much luck in or simply don't like how they play, and I'll still get good games in them every once in awhile. I've also got ships that I just seem to have good luck in or know how to play them really well and I still get terrible games in them. I actually didn't check my stats at all for the first six months or so of playing the game (mainly because I didn't care and thought I was just average.), one day I got bored and did check them and I was surprised to find out that I rate between 'good' and 'great' on Warships Today. I really don't think that I'm all that great, and if it weren't for those people that are either just starting out or really are terrible, I think I'd only be rated as average. Even though my stats list me as 'good', I try not to let it get to my head. I listen to other players when they try to coordinate a strategy, I try to help other players when I can, and I make an effort to do everything that I can to help my team. It doesn't stop me from derping (often) or outright running into islands (very often), but I tend to ignore any stat shaming or general insults that get thrown around.
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View PostGen_Jack_Oneil, on 17 April 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

 

The Match had JUST started. i hadnt even had a chance to do anything right or wrong. Plus ive been having a few bad streaks in my sims lately. So what? Everyone has bad streaks now and then. 

 

I agree with you. The guy chimping out at you just because your stats aren't great is out of line. You probably didn't do anything to provoke that reaction. That doesn't mean that stats don't matter or are useless, though. Just have fun, man, and ignore the occasional bad eggs. The guy who freaked out probably has bad stats, too.

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Majority of those that do any form of stats shaming are not good players themselves. And you have those who are also arrogant, never accepting accountability for their personal contributions to the team. It's always someone else's fault. A lot of them don't read and analyze the data correctly anyway; just focus more on the simple WR color coding and using it to jump to conclusions.

 

9 out of 10 times it's usually a bad player upset that they have (in their eyes) a bad team lineup and cannot be carried a win. Also, some of them are just padding their stats and is upset they may get a loss in the round due to the team lineup.

 

Either way, real good/experience players know how to use various ships and tiers, and won't bother with this type of noise since they have the experience to support a team to victory in various situations.



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View PostGen_Jack_Oneil, on 17 April 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

I had 2 T7 ships at the begging of the last ranked season. i could have just went in and tried and probably failed. But i didnt play it, i didnt want to ruin the matches for those who are really good and let them down. So i sat it out. Maybe next season ill play it.

 

An incorrect decision, imho. All one required last Season was a T7 ship. Ranked doesn't require a specific supposedly best DD, CA, CL, BB or CV to play it. Just play what you have.

 I had several T7 ships (none a premium either) that I randomized when I played a Ranked Battle. I got to rank 10 then slid back to 12? (I wasn't trying at all to get finished)



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That guy needs to get a life... Everyone knows that the only stat that matters is....

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I looked at your stats and they're very average. Nothing to freak out over. Maybe something else happened in your story you're not mentioning?

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As to the topic - getting 'griefed' due to stats?

1) Good Stats on WoWS, while nice, are completely bogus due to the kindergarten PvE mode.

     How many so-called great stat players have 'padded' theirs?

2) In almost all battles it is so easy to criticize (grief) someone due to the utter imbecility of so many players.

    Note who many are who play this game - juveniles/ kiddies who can't 'get' nuanced play, who only know the 'two minute' attention span console type game.

3) Die? LOL. I do that a lot. (I need to be a little less aggressive - at least, I keep telling myself that & then I don't listen to myself).

    Thing is, sometimes when one dies early one has already done some damage & sometimes gotten the enemy to focus on you while your team goes on to win.

 



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Dear original Poster:

  Dude, totally with you on this.  About 2-3 months back I decided I had quite sufficiently enough of  stat shamer's including a couple that were my own fleet.  I made a conscious choice to mask my stats and make them private.   I have been so happy with that decision.    

 

When a person in my fleet decided to take issue with this I pointed out to him that My 60th birthday is coming up in less then a month and I don't answer to them in any way shape or form ever.  That I felt their attitude was childish and immature in the extreme.  

 

And frankly I am right.  It is childish, and it does show a lack of maturity.  Its one thing to use stats to help a player identify where their performance is weak or could use some attention.  But there is a big difference socially between aiding a player in identifying and correcting issues in their play, and showing them how to improve, or what is seen far to often which is singling them out in front of other players, insulting them, cutting them down, belittling them.  

 

Yea, you know its a great great fantastic way to encourage the people your playing with to greater heights of performance, and competitiveness.  That the excuse you used around this, but the reality is a bit different.     I'm no psychologist, and I'm also decades from being a child,  and this is something I have seen far to often before.  You see it on any children's playground... "My Daddy is better then your daddy" etc.... I did it, or had it done to me.  My kids and  grand kids have experienced it.   I'ts common, But your also absolutely correct about one other little bit.  It's an [edited]hat move.  And It's not acceptable behavior any longer in on line gaming.  It's destructive and divisive to the community.  And it's some thing that does drive customers away.  And I have first hand experience with it.   I used to own a game store.   I've seen the effect reflected in the bottom line.   I have to deal with the situations that developed from such behavior.    

 

Stat shamer's are just another kind of bully trying to hide their inadequacies and that's the truth of it.  I do wish more of them would catch on to the fact that most all of the rest don't really want to know about their insecurity issues!    *mutters in frustration*

 

Hang in there man.. they ARE a very small minority, as well they should be!    


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My thoughts?  Block person in chat, support and work with non toxic team members and then in team list use a complaint for poor behavior in chat.  Those peeps kill the game they take so serious.

 

Keep using and learning the ships you enjoy.  Those peeps forget that they were new once and that games need an influx of new peeps to keep the game alive.

 

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DaChosen1FoSho #39 Posted 17 April 2017 - 10:31 PM

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So that person was me and you did leave some few facts out.

You were in a Sims, who drove to the 1 line on Two Brothers, you did nothing constructive to help your team. You didn't spot torps, you didn't smoke the team, you didn't spot the enemy DDs. You went off by yourself to do who knows what, and finished middle of the pack. We won because of my div, but you conveniently left that out of your post. And or the screen shot of of my div carrying you to victory.

You're post here is looking for justification of your poor play and some sort of sympathy "it's okay babies" from people that weren't there and know nothing of what you did. Or rather didn't do to help your team win.



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View PostAzemboz, on 17 April 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

I agree with you. The guy chimping out at you just because your stats aren't great is out of line. You probably didn't do anything to provoke that reaction. That doesn't mean that stats don't matter or are useless, though. Just have fun, man, and ignore the occasional bad eggs. The guy who freaked out probably has bad stats, too.

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