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twitch133 #1 Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:26 PM

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Really? Wiping the floor of the enemy DD's with it is fun! All you need is a commander that has reproductive organs made of stalinium, Comrade!

 

 

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I'm pretty sure no one said the Khab can't knife fight. The only thing a high tier destroyers fears more than Radar is running into Khab. 

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ckupf #3 Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:35 PM

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Only WG thinks that the Khab can't knife fight. It's the second best knife fighting DD in the game.

X15 #4 Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:37 PM

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Nobody says that, it's just even better at range.



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View PostRedSeaBear, on 04 April 2017 - 11:33 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure no one said the Khab can't knife fight. The only thing a high tier destroyers fears more than Radar is running into Khab. 

 

This^

 

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View Postckupf, on 04 April 2017 - 09:35 PM, said:

Only WG thinks that the Khab can't knife fight. It's the second best knife fighting DD in the game.

with HEAL, BFT and AR how it is the second???? 


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View PostRedSeaBear, on 04 April 2017 - 04:33 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure no one said the Khab can't knife fight. The only thing a high tier destroyers fears more than Radar is running into Khab. 

 

View PostDestroyer_WolfgangZenker, on 04 April 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

 

This^

 

If someone said that he was drunk or has no idea how to game

 

 

 

I'm just starting... controversy, lol. 

 

I had quite a few games in Fletcher and Gearing. I was not the best in them, but decent enough, and the sight of a Soviet DD on the enemy team always made my heart sink. Now that I have started playing The line, I am really starting to realize when they are so, awe inspiring.... They are very difficulty, nigh impossible to counter when played by a person who even has a shred of a clue. (Take me for, I am fairly clueless most of the time, lol)

 

I just remember the hype that USN DD's are the king of knife fighting, and that is the reason I went down that line first. Yeah, they are better at knife fighting, under a very limited set of circumstances.


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So

View PostX15, on 04 April 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

Nobody says that, it's just even better at range.

 

This is the question on my mind.  Should I keep AFT on my Khab and get Last Stand with my final two points?.... or should I drop AFT and pick up Survival Expert + Demolition Expert instead?

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View PostZim_Xero, on 04 April 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

So

 

This is the question on my mind.  Should I keep AFT on my Khab and get Last Stand with my final two points?.... or should I drop AFT and pick up Survival Expert + Demolition Expert instead?

 




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View PostZim_Xero, on 04 April 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

So

 

This is the question on my mind.  Should I keep AFT on my Khab and get Last Stand with my final two points?.... or should I drop AFT and pick up Survival Expert + Demolition Expert instead?

 

How many points do you have and how are they allocated now?

 

This is how I have my Khab set up now. 

 

My next two points are going to go into Adrenaline rush.

 

This is the build I am working toward, it is identical on my Udaloi captain.

 

It has been working out really well for me.


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View Posttwitch133, on 05 April 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

 

How many points do you have and how are they allocated now?

 

This is how I have my Khab set up now. 

 

My next two points are going to go into Adrenaline rush.

 

This is the build I am working toward, it is identical on my Udaloi captain.

 

It has been working out really well for me.

 

Or you can trade ship HP for 1 more heal but overal is a good khab build

 

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SireneRacker #12 Posted 04 April 2017 - 10:25 PM

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From what I see in game there is almost nothing a Khabarovsk can't do. Like that thing eats my Cruiser HE and laughs since some shells shatter. Even Yamato can't do that.

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View PostSireneRacker, on 05 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

From what I see in game there is almost nothing a Khabarovsk can't do. Like that thing eats my Cruiser HE and laughs since some shells shatter. Even Yamato can't do that.

 

Shoot AP at him

It melts under any ap shells


                                                                

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View PostDestroyer_WolfgangZenker, on 04 April 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

 

Shoot AP at him

It melts under any ap shells

 

Can confirm....

 

I got hit by a lucky Yamato salvo at 11km the other day, melted off 16k health.

 

That armor is a double edge sword. You take a lot less HE damage. But... Any AP that does not bounce, sticks and does 33%.


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My current build below (at 17 pts).  I include Turret rotation so that I can use this same commander on Lenningrad, Okhotnik, and maybe 1 day the Gremy too.

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View PostZim_Xero, on 04 April 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

My current build below (at 17 pts).  I include Turret rotation so that I can use this same commander on Lenningrad, Okhotnik, and maybe 1 day the Gremy too.

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I might forgo Concealment Expert.

 

It is very nice to be able to disengage an disappear at a reasonable distance.. (Does that even exist for soviet DD's?) Hence the reason I went with the concealment module, rather than the last rudder shift module.

 

I just feel like, Khab really thrives being seen. The 4 points would might be much better spent elsewhere. (I changed that to might, as that is all preference, as to what you like best.) But I do feel the core skills for Khab are BFT, AFT and DE. Without those, you are sacrificing so much damage potential, which is where the ship really shines, is its ability to punish anybody, with very little that can be done in return.


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This is the build I have (gold) am working on (red)

The extra HP from SE also increases heal amount, number of heals and speeds increased by SI, and finally BFT for some for fire rate and AA. 

Honestly the worst thing for the khab is battleship AP or a sudden and uncomfortably close cruiser. But a smart Gearing with AP/HE switching can really mess you up.


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View PostDestroyer_WolfgangZenker, on 04 April 2017 - 11:26 PM, said:

Shoot AP at him

It melts under any ap shells

 

I don't know Murphy's law usually applies when I fire at a Khabarovsk. Firing HE, I hit the 50mm plates. Firing AP, I hit the 19mm plates and overpen. 


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Khab brawls with 50mm plating and sheer firepower.

It's so dumb it can do that.


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Hm, imo it's still the king of DD knife fights, it's only negative is its ability to dodge torps... however you can take out torp launchers with every shot so that evens out the only negative it had.. 




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