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Gasai__Yuno #1 Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:42 AM

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My Greetings.

 

( If you do not want to ' read ' everything, in short.

I would like you more experienced ' players '

to offer me information I should know as a new player in WoWs,

I am looking for fast and stealthy play style )

 

Due of recent events and inspiration, I have decided to try out

this Wargaming product, Some what glad that I did. ( Finally )

( World of Warships )

 

Some may know my name, some may not.

 

( I come from World of Tanks, where I am,

rather successful & experienced  Tank Destroyer driver )

( One of the ' Older ' Customers of Wargaming )

 

 

What I like from ' Warships ' so far, is the great ' Atmosphere '

This has been implemented rather well, atmosphere is very important.

I also like the fact that my ' premium time ' from WoT connects here.

 

This is very nice.

 

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As a player, I am looking for something ' Quick & Stealthy '

I assume that the ' Destroyer ' Class is something like this,

( from my observations. )

 

In fact I went directly to the German V-25 ship

and enjoy the speed and stealth this has to offer.

The play style seems to be very exciting.

 

The ' Cruisers ' did seem painful to play, due of their larger size

and slower speed compared to the Destroyers.

 

As a ' starting player ' ( Here ) It would be reasonable

to start your ' cruise ' with decent knowledge.

To make the learning curve less painful.

( now that I have chance for it as I understand,

In world of tanks I did ' self learn everything ' )

 

I am not completely ' hopeless ' however,

my first battle statistics are not that ' shameful '.

 

This mostly comes from my competitive nature

and the great experience in World of Tanks.

I have tried to use everything I know from there to this product.

 

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So, my more experienced Warships players.

I would appreciate it, if you offer knowledge to me.

And tell what I should really know about this ' game '

 

Perhaps offer me information that I should know,

if I am willing to become competitive player here as well.

 

My thanks, and I hope that we can get along here...

 

 

I do not ' like ' ships that much, but I have gotten slightly more interested about them.

' Destroyers ' in particular at least, perhaps I am able to become

' competitive player ' in this product as well.

 

So please, offer me knowledge and help I should know,

as a relatively new player to the ' World of Warships '.

 

Good Luck.

 

Gasai.


Edited by Gasai__Yuno, 26 March 2017 - 06:45 AM.

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View PostChien_Lu_Anderman, on 26 March 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

Welcome and fair seas and good hunting to you sir .      :honoring:

 

My thanks.

 

If any one has any information I should know.

I would gladly accept it.

 

 


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SireneRacker #4 Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:57 AM

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Welcome to the game and enjoy it as much as possible.

 

If you are looking for some knowledge on the game there are several ways of getting it:

- Watch YouTube videos of the Community Contributers (such as iChase, Notser, ...)

- Read the various guides on the Forums, there is a section for that

- Read the WoWs wiki, especially the penetration and damage mechanics are well explained there

 

As for a good start I recommend Jingles' "How to not Suck" video on YouTube ( https://youtu.be/hOL-NwvY4MM ).

 

If you ever have questions on the game or around it, don't hesitate to ask on the Forums. Most of the people here will gladly help you.

 

Hope to see you on the sea :honoring:


Edited by SireneRacker, 26 March 2017 - 06:58 AM.

Proud member of [WAIFU], nothing beats Prinz Eugen

 

Torpedoes don't have any friends. So they will kill everything in their path. To prevent team kills we should all watch out where we fire those fishes. That means each and everyone of us, DDs of the second line!

No my name does NOT refer to those things from Odysseus! They refer to those loud things attached to a fire truck. Not to beautiful girls singing on the Ocean.


Gasai__Yuno #5 Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:02 AM

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I must say that it feels ' interesting ' to be somewhat ' clueless ' for once.

What works in World of Tanks, does not directly work here.

 

I will see the video you did offer, at least.

I am willing to use my time to play this ' product ' as well.

This seems relatively interesting so far.

 

Where I can learn the proper amount of ' lead ' for the ' Torpedoes ' ?

Or is it best to learn this just by myself ?


Edited by Gasai__Yuno, 26 March 2017 - 07:03 AM.

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View PostGasai__Yuno, on 26 March 2017 - 01:54 AM, said:

 

My thanks.

 

If any one has any information I should know.

I would gladly accept it.

 

 

 

Umm not being all that good a player myself (basically low average here and in WoT) I do not think I can give much in the way of good advice . I can answer at least some specific questions since I have been playing WoWs since the Closed Beta Weekend Tests . If you have a microphone and can speak English well enough ( I am just simply bad at learning languages {tried three}) we can do a division wherein you can ask questions . Or here ; just understand I am a slow typist to start with and Rheumatoid Arthritis has started to severely deform my hands .

   When I am online I would be glad to help you  any way I can .     :honoring:


 

 

 

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View PostGasai__Yuno, on 26 March 2017 - 08:02 AM, said:

I must say that it feels ' interesting ' to be somewhat ' clueless ' for once.

What works in World of Tanks, does not directly work here.

 

I will see the video you did offer, at least.

I am willing to use my time to play this ' product ' as well.

This seems relatively interesting so far.

 

Where I can learn the proper amount of' lead ' for the ' Torpedoes ' ?

Or is it best to learn this just by myself ?

 

You can select a target by pressing 'X' while looking at them. If you have Torpedoes selected a gray bar will apear on the water which indicates where the ship will be by the time your Torp arrives, assuming that the ship does not change course or speed

Proud member of [WAIFU], nothing beats Prinz Eugen

 

Torpedoes don't have any friends. So they will kill everything in their path. To prevent team kills we should all watch out where we fire those fishes. That means each and everyone of us, DDs of the second line!

No my name does NOT refer to those things from Odysseus! They refer to those loud things attached to a fire truck. Not to beautiful girls singing on the Ocean.


RivertheRoyal #8 Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:05 AM

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There's a veritable treasure trove of information in the guides section of the forums here. There are also more specialized sections for each class of ship, and their various nation sub-identities.

 

As Sirene mentioned, there are quite a few good videos on youtube for new players, such as iChase's Captain's Academy series.

 

Other than that, feel free to ask us forumites anything, if you have more specific questions. Normally, we're pretty good about helping players learn whatever they want to.

 

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View PostSireneRacker, on 26 March 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

 

You can select a target by pressing 'X' while looking at them. If you have Torpedoes selected a gray bar will apear on the water which indicates where the ship will be by the time your Torp arrives, assuming that the ship does not change course or speed

 

Turns out what you told with this alone,

was very great help.

 

I feel like the ' Destroyers ' are my thing.

I have to learn to be able to use torpedoes well as quickly as possible.

 

View PostHiroe, on 26 March 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

Welcome, friend.

 

We will see if I am able to ' cruise '

 

 

 


Edited by Gasai__Yuno, 26 March 2017 - 07:08 AM.

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View PostGasai__Yuno, on 26 March 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

Turns out what you told with this alone,

was very great help.

 

I feel like the ' Destroyers ' are my thing.

I have to learn to be able to use torpedoes well as quickly as possible.

 

Destroyers can be very rewarding but I also recommend that at some point you try other lines if only to see how your enemies work.

 

Only other thing that I feel like mentioning is that you should always watch out with your Torps. I know that Yuno's hair is pink, but your name shouldn't be as well.


Proud member of [WAIFU], nothing beats Prinz Eugen

 

Torpedoes don't have any friends. So they will kill everything in their path. To prevent team kills we should all watch out where we fire those fishes. That means each and everyone of us, DDs of the second line!

No my name does NOT refer to those things from Odysseus! They refer to those loud things attached to a fire truck. Not to beautiful girls singing on the Ocean.


Gasai__Yuno #12 Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:18 AM

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View PostSireneRacker, on 26 March 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

 

Destroyers can be very rewarding but I also recommend that at some point you try other lines if only to see how your enemies work.

 

Only other thing that I feel like mentioning is that you should always watch out with your Torps. I know that Yuno's hair is pink, but your name shouldn't be as well.

 

In ' World of Tanks ' I have nearly every single battle

from my 50 000 battles with tank destroyers,

with extremely competitive results.

 

I believe that just by ' observing ' my enemies I can learn what I need to learn about them.

I also believe in ' Do something & do this something as well as you can '

 

Therefore I will only play one class.

I can sense that the Destroyers can be very competitive,

because of the ' camouflage & the ability to flex '


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View PostGasai__Yuno, on 26 March 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

 

In ' World of Tanks ' I have nearly every single battle

from my 50 000 battles with tank destroyers,

with extremely competitive results.

 

I believe that just by ' observing ' my enemies I can learn what I need to learn about them.

I also believe in ' Do something & do this something as well as you can '

 

Therefore I will only play one class.

I can sense that the Destroyers can be very competitive,

because of the ' camouflage & the ability to flex '

 

This game is a bit different from WoT. I am not saying that you have to play all classes in order to be competitive, but I found it to be helpful for me. I played the first ~120 matches in Japanese Cruisers only, disliking any other ship class. I was unaware of the Consumables that other ships get, for example the Repair on Battleships. At some point I started playing Destroyers and Battleships as well as trying the American line. And I don't regret that since I have learned the strenghs and weaknesses of each line and can now easily counter them as long as I have the correct ship. I still have my tendency towards Cruisers, but I have learned the other classes as well and they can be fun from time to time.

 


Proud member of [WAIFU], nothing beats Prinz Eugen

 

Torpedoes don't have any friends. So they will kill everything in their path. To prevent team kills we should all watch out where we fire those fishes. That means each and everyone of us, DDs of the second line!

No my name does NOT refer to those things from Odysseus! They refer to those loud things attached to a fire truck. Not to beautiful girls singing on the Ocean.


xX_Critical_ClopOut69_Xx #14 Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:31 AM

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View PostSireneRacker, on 26 March 2017 - 03:28 AM, said:

 

This game is a bit different from WoT. I am not saying that you have to play all classes in order to be competitive, but I found it to be helpful for me. I played the first ~120 matches in Japanese Cruisers only, disliking any other ship class. I was unaware of the Consumables that other ships get, for example the Repair on Battleships. At some point I started playing Destroyers and Battleships as well as trying the American line. And I don't regret that since I have learned the strenghs and weaknesses of each line and can now easily counter them as long as I have the correct ship. I still have my tendency towards Cruisers, but I have learned the other classes as well and they can be fun from time to time.

 

 

It's smart to play other lines to find out the feel of them and how to more easily play against them. That being said, trying other destroyer lines out like the Russians and Americans would be of great use. I have a feeling the American or Russian destroyers are the most noob friendly.

 

German destroyers are not the strongest line in the game ATM.


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I do have my own ' Philosophy ' from certain matters.

The cruiser I did try, did not satisfy my need as a player.

I was instantly a lot happier even with my limited knowledge about this product.

With the Destroyer I did play.

 

' Jack of all Trades ' is not where I believe.

I wish to develop only something that does please me as a player / human.

Destroyers so far seem something like that in this ' product '


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It's alright if you stick to one line at first. However, it is fairly advisable to at least test out the other lines at some point, in order to better know their weaknesses and strengths. 

For instance, I am a cruiser main, and first started learning how to play that class effectively. I got to tier 8 in the Japanese cruiser line and hit a bit of a wall. So, I picked up American destroyers, and Japanese battleships. The destroyers I immediately took to, learning how to use them fairly effectively. The battleships took a little more getting used to, and I still struggle to play them every now and then. (And yes guys, I do have a Ryuujou class carrier sitting in my port.) 

 

However, the things I learned from each class certainly helped me immensely. If you want to stick to a single class the entire time, then I'm not going to stop you. But I am going to say that diversity is a very powerful learning tool in this game.  

 

Good luck, and I hope to see you in game.   


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View PostGasai__Yuno, on 26 March 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

I do have my own ' Philosophy ' from certain matters.

The cruiser I did try, did not satisfy my need as a player.

I was instantly a lot happier even with my limited knowledge about this product.

With the Destroyer I did play.

 

' Jack of all Trades ' is not where I believe.

I wish to develop only something that does please me as a player / human.

Destroyers so far seem something like that in this ' product '

 

If Destroyers satisfy you right now you should continue to play them, but if reach a point where you have the feeling that you don't advanca amy further no matter what, you should not hesitate to try other lines. I managed to learn high Tier Cruiser gameplay by playing low Tier battleships. The German Destroyer line will change dramatically at Tier 5 when you lose the bow Torpedoes in exchange for faster Torps.

 

 


Proud member of [WAIFU], nothing beats Prinz Eugen

 

Torpedoes don't have any friends. So they will kill everything in their path. To prevent team kills we should all watch out where we fire those fishes. That means each and everyone of us, DDs of the second line!

No my name does NOT refer to those things from Odysseus! They refer to those loud things attached to a fire truck. Not to beautiful girls singing on the Ocean.


Gasai__Yuno #18 Posted 26 March 2017 - 10:39 AM

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My thanks for the information so far.

 

If you feel like giving me anything else to think about here.

Please do so, I will look at it and learn about it in the future.

 

 

The knowledge so far, will reduce my

' learning curve ' in this product by large margin.

 

I have decided the ' Destroyers ' to be what I will continue to train with.

( naturally as it comes from my ideals and senses,

Destroyers as ' class ' are closest to what I am looking for )

( Considering what I am and where I come from )


Edited by Gasai__Yuno, 26 March 2017 - 10:41 AM.

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Go Japanese.  German destroyers are the worst you could start with.  Russian destroyers are also good but don't really operate on stealth like Japanese and sometimes US ones do.

 

A ship like Minekaze or Fubuki seems right up your alley.


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Anything else that you should know?

 

One point I forgot to mention earlier, try to make the most out of your smoke screens. Smoke is something that only Destroyers and some chosen Cruisers get (Iwaki Alpha, Kutuzow, British Cruisers at T5 and higher and the Flint) and it is a powerful weapon when used with teamwork. Don't be afraid to offer your smokescreen to a Battleship in need, especially in mid and higher Tiers this gets appreciated. Cover your retreat, protect your allies or use it to safely fire your guns. Smoke is the multi-tool of most Destroyers, so you will greatly improve by learning everything you can do with it. A bit Off-Topic, but I've seen a Destroyer who smoked our Carrier to protect him from an early game CV-snipe (when a CV sends his planes around the map to sink the enemy Carrier) with success. I hope that this gives you a perspective on the impact of a well-placed smoke screen.

 


Proud member of [WAIFU], nothing beats Prinz Eugen

 

Torpedoes don't have any friends. So they will kill everything in their path. To prevent team kills we should all watch out where we fire those fishes. That means each and everyone of us, DDs of the second line!

No my name does NOT refer to those things from Odysseus! They refer to those loud things attached to a fire truck. Not to beautiful girls singing on the Ocean.






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