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icecommander1234 #1 Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:41 AM

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I hope they don't add destroyer escort.

If they do this is my reaction.


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Hello, I am confused. 

 

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icecommander1234 #3 Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:52 AM

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it's a really small destroyer with 1 or 2 guns

 



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View Posticecommander1234, on 19 March 2017 - 08:52 PM, said:

it's a really small destroyer with 1 or 2 guns

 

 

You mean the T1 boats?(essentially)

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If they had torps then crying will ensue.. :trollface:

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He is talking about what we would call Frigates like the Samuel B. Roberts.

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Too late, T-22 (the tier 5 German destroyer) is a "Fleet Torpedo Boat" which is basically the German designation for a Destroyer Escort.

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View PostGhostSwordsman, on 19 March 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

You mean the T1 boats?(essentially)

no, i'm talking about a class of destroyer that is really small



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View PostWulfgarn, on 19 March 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

If they had torps then crying will ensue.. :trollface:

yes it would



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View Posticecommander1234, on 19 March 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

no, i'm talking about a class of destroyer that is really small

 

I think you missed what I was getting at.

 

The T1 ships are more modern than the T2s. On top of that they're smaller, and much closer to a true gunboat than they are a cruiser. So essentially, they're like the destroyer escorts(though probably bigger than them). In essence, DEs would never be in this game, one reason being they wouldn't have the tonnage to compete outside of T1 and maybe T2. It's a lot like how another type of ship that shall not be named, which gets brought up all too often around here, wouldn't be competitive outside of T1 and T2 with one reason being they don't have the tonnage to do so.


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Edited by Destroyer_Johnston, 20 March 2017 - 02:25 AM.

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View PostGhostSwordsman, on 19 March 2017 - 08:09 PM, said:

 

I think you missed what I was getting at.

 

The T1 ships are more modern than the T2s. On top of that they're smaller, and much closer to a true gunboat than they are a cruiser. So essentially, they're like the destroyer escorts(though probably bigger than them). In essence, DEs would never be in this game, one reason being they wouldn't have the tonnage to compete outside of T1 and maybe T2. It's a lot like how another type of ship that shall not be named, which gets brought up all too often around here, wouldn't be competitive outside of T1 and T2 with one reason being they don't have the tonnage to do so.

 

American DEs could make it up to about tier 5 (based purely on tonnage and not combat competitiveness) assuming their hitpoints are calculated the same way destroyer's are. Otherwise, WG could give DEs a unique hitpoint formula that would benefit them.
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View PostGhostSwordsman, on 19 March 2017 - 08:09 PM, said:

 

I think you missed what I was getting at.

 

The T1 ships are more modern than the T2s. On top of that they're smaller, and much closer to a true gunboat than they are a cruiser. So essentially, they're like the destroyer escorts(though probably bigger than them). In essence, DEs would never be in this game, one reason being they wouldn't have the tonnage to compete outside of T1 and maybe T2. It's a lot like how another type of ship that shall not be named, which gets brought up all too often around here, wouldn't be competitive outside of T1 and T2 with one reason being they don't have the tonnage to do so.

 

oh, i thought you meant something else.

 



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View Postdseehafer, on 19 March 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

 

American DEs could make it up to about tier 5 (based purely on tonnage and not combat competitiveness) assuming their hitpoints are calculated the same way destroyer's are. Otherwise, WG could give DEs a unique hitpoint formula that would benefit them.

 

And that's the catch. We're talking about ships that have half the armament of a T1 ship, not counting torpedoes, of which I believe they'd only have two or three tubes anyway.

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View PostGhostSwordsman, on 19 March 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

 

And that's the catch. We're talking about ships that have half the armament of a T1 ship, not counting torpedoes, of which I believe they'd only have two or three tubes anyway.

 

Yeah, but you're point was that DEs wouldn't have the tonnage to be anything better than tier 1 or 2, which is wrong, you said nothing about their armament. I wasn't arguing a case for DEs to be in game up to tier 5, or thereabouts, because they'd be balanced, rather, I was refuting your claim that they do not have the tonnage to be anything above tier 2. They have the tonnage, they do not have the armament or speed. Again, talking specifically about the American DEs here.

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View PostDestroyer_Johnston, on 19 March 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

 

About the only way that DE's would work in the game would be as low tier premium DD's. The Samuel B Roberts a John C. Butler class DE would be a good choice and would sell like the proverbial hot cakes among history buffs. Give it the 28 knots it managed during the Action off Samar and fast firing guns to go with her triple torpedo mount and a relatively low detection range for a very small window to fire torpedoes undetected before concealment expert.

  

 

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I think what the creator of this thread is worried about is if they add Destroyer escorts Submarines he's are likely to soon follow because Destroyer escorts were used mainly for sub hunting and had the agility and speed to intercept subs and Depth charge them to death before the subs got close to critical elements of the battle fleets.

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hate to break it to you but.... WG WILL be adding DEs to the game! but not for a long while. They want to get France and Italy into the game first before they add more alternate lines!:read_fish:

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View PostAdmiral_Thrawn_1, on 19 March 2017 - 09:47 PM, said:

I think what the creator of this thread is worried about is if they add Destroyer escorts Submarines he's are likely to soon follow because Destroyer escorts were used mainly for sub hunting and had the agility and speed to intercept subs and Depth charge them to death before the subs got close to critical elements of the battle fleets.

 

WG say they'll be maybe adding Subs as AI opponents for possible escort missions in the future. but again, this type of game feature is going to be 1-2 years away before they implement it,:read_fish: we could even maybe have island invasion missions and have AI Medium bombers attack our ships if WG wanted to get creative! Unlike WOT's devs, the WOWS crew is way more open to suggestions and actually listen to feedback form STs/Alphas and Betas!:great:




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