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CrazyHorse_Denver #1 Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:04 PM

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It would have made sense to have developed one to go along with the new line but it appears that we might be stuck with a BB to train cruiser captains with. Are those who don't like the playstyle of the only French premium just out of luck.

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yes, it will be a tier 3 row boat complete with a white flag. zero guns

          
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View PostMajorRenegade, on 06 March 2017 - 08:10 AM, said:

yes, it will be a tier 3 row boat complete with a white flag. zero guns

 

There are guns... they just get thrown over while hoisting the flag in the countdown before the game
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Why would you make French-surrender jokes about the French Navy which had elements that continued to distinguish itself and fight against the Axis throughout the whole duration of the war even against the express wishes of the Vichy French government?

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View PostLittleWhiteMouse, on 06 March 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

Why would you make French-surrender jokes about the French Navy which had elements that continued to distinguish itself and fight against the Axis throughout the whole duration of the war even against the express wishes of the Vichy French government?

 

I don't know. It's an annoying stereotype that keeps repeating itself. On the topic of your question OP, I believe the cruiser Suffren might be a possibility.

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As usual: :)

View PostDoomStomper, on 06 March 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

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Based on my experience in the SlamDunk, maybe their national flavor is "fun to play"

 

 

edit: C'mon Mouse, the white flag/reverse gear jokes are only in jest. Those jokes are no different than the fascism and socialism jokes about the German and Soviet navies, respectively. The majority of the community has been very anxious to see a French line. Furthermore, respect for the French Navy on the NA server, at least for Americans, should date well before the World Wars to the American Revolution. I sure as heck can't wait to work my way down the cheese and wine line! 

 


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View PostLittleWhiteMouse, on 06 March 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

Why would you make French-surrender jokes about the French Navy which had elements that continued to distinguish itself and fight against the Axis throughout the whole duration of the war even against the express wishes of the Vichy French government?

 

It is getting to be a very tired old joke. It's been passed on for several generations here in America. It basically stems from the fact that our parents and/or grandparents(for my generation ) had to shed American blood to haul their ashes out of the fire twice in 30 years.

 

Though you are right that the stereotype belongs to the army and not the navy. Having gotten the stuffing kicked out of it in WWI the French army just wasn't up for another fight so soon after. Even then it wasn't the individual French fighting man but the total lack of leadership at the top that did them in.


Edited by CrazyHorse_Denver, 06 March 2017 - 03:40 PM.

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View PostLittleWhiteMouse, on 06 March 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

Why would you make French-surrender jokes about the French Navy which had elements that continued to distinguish itself and fight against the Axis throughout the whole duration of the war even against the express wishes of the Vichy French government?

 

Leave it to Mouse to cut through the snarkiness that is ill deserved... +1


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As someone who as served with the French army overseas they are an amazing group of people. Some of the best soldiers I have ever seen in battle. 

 

Also lets keep in mind they pulled Americas [edited]out of the fire during the Revolution. :hiding:



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View PostLittleWhiteMouse, on 06 March 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

Why would you make French-surrender jokes about the French Navy which had elements that continued to distinguish itself and fight against the Axis throughout the whole duration of the war even against the express wishes of the Vichy French government?

 

Not to mention Camerone. Not to mention they are arguably the world's third strongest navy even today...they are the only other western navy to currently operate a functional supercarrier and strong naval aviation component, at least until the UK gets their new carriers online (Italian carriers are light CVs at best and basically amphibs / helicopter carriers with F-35/Harrier capability, Brazil's CV still flies Korean War-era planes and Thailand's CV is basically their royal yacht.)

 

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As someone who as served with the French army overseas they are an amazing group of people. Some of the best soldiers I have ever seen in battle. 

Also lets keep in mind they pulled Americas [edited]out of the fire during the Revolution. :hiding:

 

This. The United States would not have successfully achieved independence from Britain without the aid of the French. Or if they had, it would have taken a lot longer and been a lot bloodier. 


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If I recall the cruiser pictured in the Christmas Present teaser art looked a lot like the Jeanne d' Arc.  

 


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I wish French BBs came first.

 

View PostLonewolfpj, on 06 March 2017 - 11:51 PM, said:

Also lets keep in mind they pulled Americas [edited]out of the fire during the Revolution. :hiding:

 

Only to plunge themselves into revolution, tragically. A heavy price for aiding the American Revolution, paid for with the guillotine and more bloody conflicts.


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View PostWolcott, on 06 March 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

I wish French BBs came first.

 

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View PostCrazyHorse_Denver, on 06 March 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

It would have made sense to have developed one to go along with the new line but it appears that we might be stuck with a BB to train cruiser captains with. Are those who don't like the playstyle of the only French premium just out of luck.

 

Dunkerque *should* work to train a cruiser captain. As a cruiser-killer, using a cruiser-build captain may not be precisely optimal for Dunk, but should share a lot of the same skills and be pretty decent. 

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Dug it up:

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Granted it may have just been a general tease of the French CA line but the child scrawl itself looks more like the Jeanne than the ships slated for the tree:

 


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View PostTheStarSlayer, on 06 March 2017 - 08:33 AM, said:

Granted it may have just been a general tease of the French CA line but the child scrawl itself looks more like the Jeanne than the ones slated for the tree:

 

Looks like the T1 Bougainville to me: https://en.wikipedia...lle-class_aviso

 

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It would have made sense to have developed one to go along with the new line but it appears that we might be stuck with a BB to train cruiser captains with.

 

None that I know of. The KM lack a DD trainer too, though they make up for it elsewhere (3 BB premiums, 2 CA premiums).

 

I may start training a new Captain on Dunkerque...


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View Postmofton, on 06 March 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

 

Looks like the T1 Bougainville to me: https://en.wikipedia...lle-class_aviso

 

Ah crap you are correct, that's what I get for ignoring Tier I :P

 


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View PostLittleWhiteMouse, on 06 March 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

Why would you make French-surrender jokes about the French Navy which had elements that continued to distinguish itself and fight against the Axis throughout the whole duration of the war even against the express wishes of the Vichy French government?

 

To take the point even further: If the French Navy under Comte de Grasse doesn't defeat the Royal Navy at the Battle of the Chesapeake in 1781, British General Cornwallis is not trapped and forced to surrender at Yorktown (which effectively ended the American Revolution).

 



 


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