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JochenHeiden #1 Posted 04 March 2017 - 06:58 PM

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Despite all the positive things people say about Hipper, I found it a terrible ground.  Its biggest problem is exposure to Tier X battles without a heal, and its low DPM.  I am now in the Roon and I find it to be a massive upgrade from Hipper!  The 8.8 second reload is outstanding, it is maneuverable if you run both rudder shift mods, and its AA suite is excellent.  I was dreading the jump because I had some bad memories from Nurnberg and the aft turret mounts, but it has not been an issue in Roon.  Definitely an excellent ship, and it will be a pleasant ride up to the Hindenburg.

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Adm_Nate_Ellis937 #2 Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:25 PM

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Hindenburg is my favourite German cruiser, next to Eugen. Shes what I call the "JoATMoN" (Jack of All Trades, Master of None) ship.

Kombat_W0MBAT #3 Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:25 PM

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T8 ships in T10 matches is always rough. As for the German cruisers, they just get better and better as you go. Enjoy your Roon! Hindy gets even better. 

Falls_USMC #4 Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:32 PM

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Roon is incredibly fun. I was almost sad when I finished the grind to the Hindy. 

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Wyatt_DERP85 #5 Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:41 AM

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The Hipper could be strong but the problem is that due to the slow rate of fire and high damage, AP is only great in a small percentage of situations and HE was weak when you will find yourself having to shoot at from time to time. 

The rate of fire is insane - even the "weak" German HE becomes deadly due to the sheer number of shells you can spit out. Love the Hindenburg too.



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In a tough spot. I have the Eugen from a Santa crate and I don't want to grind the Hipper as its the same with 1% less fire chance. 

 

Is it OK to free xp to the roon in this instance?



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View PostSalvoSanta, on 05 March 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

In a tough spot. I have the Eugen from a Santa crate and I don't want to grind the Hipper as its the same with 1% less fire chance. 

 

Is it OK to free xp to the roon in this instance?

 

I would think so. If you have the Free XP then go for it. However if you enjoy the Eugen, the Hipper is more of the same. Might not be as bad a grind as you think. 

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SeaRaptor00 #8 Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:47 PM

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Roon is a great ship.  Enjoy the grind.  Hindenburg is well worth it.

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bassmasta76 #9 Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:12 PM

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I like the Admiral Hipper... she does have her weaknesses, but if played properly, can be a terror.  I'll admit, the reload times are painful, especially when switching between HE and AP (which I find myself doing more in this ship than in any other).  I should get EL as a captain skill, but am grinding it a bit.  

 

The AP is pretty deadly though... I used it to grind through one of the Honorable Service campaign missions - 50 citadels in a T8+ Cruiser.  It was lots of fun... I had a 14 citadel game once just chewing up the opposition.   While the HE is a bit on the weak side, I added HEAP and have found that it helps quite a bit.  IMHO.

 

Regarding her AA - I was in a match where it was a Roon and I vs. a CV at the end.  The CV kept sending planes and took out the Roon, but I had buffed AA on the Hipper and was eating planes like candy :D.

 

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CaptainGadriel #10 Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:54 PM

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Hello everyone, just hit the Roon today, sadly not enough credits to upgrade the reload speed, the hull or the range. What do you guys recommend upgrading first, Im struggling trying to fight in that 16 km range, maybe upgrade the range first? For the 17.8 km, what are your thoughts?

JochenHeiden #11 Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:32 AM

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Get the upgraded guns.  The reload speed is crucial!

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I got the Roon yesterday and upgraded the guns first. Got into a gunnery duel with a Nagato in full health. Just the two of us. Lasted for 10 minutes and burned her to the water line. It started in the 15 km range and became a 10-12 km range running fight,  with me chasing the BB down. He kept overshooting and the shells would just pass or hit the superstructure but RNG Jesus granted him 2 citadel hits. Thankfully not both at once. The rear 2 guns means I have to kick the bow to unmask the rear guns to shoot, but the 8 sec reload time was worth it.

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View PostSalvoSanta, on 06 March 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

In a tough spot. I have the Eugen from a Santa crate and I don't want to grind the Hipper as its the same with 1% less fire chance. 

 

Is it OK to free xp to the roon in this instance?

 

I did it.

 

7 or 8 games in and I love this ship. Survivability is ACE.



centarina #14 Posted 19 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

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I started with range mod until i got the range upgraded then changed to ROF.     8.8 sec reload is pretty cool.     I am doing better with ibuki, but roon is still very strong and can dish it out.

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View Postcentarina, on 19 March 2017 - 10:47 AM, said:

I started with range mod until i got the range upgraded then changed to ROF.     

 

This is a good way to go with Roon.  


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Fletcher7_1944 #16 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:49 PM

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Mean!!!  I'm just starting on Hipper, and have all but given up on trying to play it in the current meta- and this thread pops up...   I like the ship- really, I do- but it just gets squashed or blanked out almost every time.  When it does work, boy do those guns rip things apart!  Those occasions where it can be effective just seem to be fewer and farther between.

 

 I do have almost 300k free xp...  lol.



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View PostFletcher7_1944, on 20 March 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

Mean!!!  I'm just starting on Hipper, and have all but given up on trying to play it in the current meta- and this thread pops up...   I like the ship- really, I do- but it just gets squashed or blanked out almost every time.  When it does work, boy do those guns rip things apart!  Those occasions where it can be effective just seem to be fewer and farther between.

 

 I do have almost 300k free xp...  lol.

 

I'm now into the Hindenburg, my first Tier X ship, and let me tell you, the Hipper grind is WELL WORTH IT.  The Roon is a big upgrade, and Hindenburg even still.  It's scary pumping 12k salvos into a Yamato or GK every 8.8 seconds.

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KaptainKaybe #18 Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:05 AM

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I recently got the Roon (free XPed out of stock) and I am absolutely loving it! It is such a great ship, and if Hindenburg plays like her, I am stoked!

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View PostKaptainKaybe, on 22 March 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

I recently got the Roon (free XPed out of stock) and I am absolutely loving it! It is such a great ship, and if Hindenburg plays like her, I am stoked!

 

Hindenburg is better in every way.  If you enjoy Roon, you'll adore Hindenburg.

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BRailfanH #20 Posted 24 March 2017 - 12:49 AM

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I'm currently in the late stages of the Hipper grind (about 60k to go 'til I get the Roon).  Is rudder shift more important than concealment, or should I go full concealment like I'm doing now w/ the Hipper?

 

I just have this feeling that I'm gonna really like that Roon, and the Hindenburg after that.






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