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Poll: Premium CVs (51 members have cast votes)

Which is your favorite CV of the ones I've suggested?

  1. Saratoga (7 votes [13.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.73%

  2. Yorktown (12 votes [23.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  3. Hornet (9 votes [17.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  4. Akagi/Kaga (14 votes [27.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.45%

  5. Shinano (9 votes [17.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

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Tzarevitch #21 Posted 27 February 2017 - 10:50 PM

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View PostTheKaiserSose101, on 24 February 2017 - 04:12 AM, said:

 

Just my thoughts on premium cv's. tiers based on amount of planes carried in real life, general size and what other ships they were comparable to within their nation.

 

I would have to say one of the Yorktown class at tier 8 its a reasonable step between the Lexington and Essex, it's unique from the remaining carriers with a nice history to go with them. Personally i would like the

Hornet but ultimately up to WG. I cant say anything good for the Saratoga because its 2 degrees off of the Lexington, but the again so is Prinz Eugen and hipper..... so that argument already has precedence against it.

 

Graff zeppelin at tier 6 for a german carrier, maybe tier 7 for balancing issues, i don't know what WG would do if they decided to add her.

 

Shinano would be interesting to see eventually, because she is a yamato converted to a carrier. enough said. however i can see that as a balancing nightmare.

Unryu or Ikoma class would also be nice for the japanese cv tier 7 or 8, but also akagi or kaga would be nice to fit in as well,  probably at tier 8, but once again completely up to WG.

 

​Now that they announced her, it will be interesting to see where they put Graf Zeppelin. You could make a case for T6 or T7 depending on how they implement her. It was a huge ship by T6-T7 carrier standards but her planned airgroup was tiny for such a large ship (42 or so planes).  Also her final planned airgroup did not include torpedo bombers which hurts in the game. They expected to use navalized Me109s fighters and Ju-87 stuka dive bombers. I am looking forward to see if the stukas are any good.

Starfighter_Ace #22 Posted 28 February 2017 - 02:57 PM

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View Postjustsmith, on 24 February 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

WG can't realy add any new premium cv till after they have worked out they revamp anyway and how they want CVs to play and work. As cvs are still in alpha/beta when it comes to wg now and how they going to change them.

 

Personaly i want the USS Robin as a premium cv.

 

I'd buy that one!

_Fantomex_ #23 Posted 28 February 2017 - 03:32 PM

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View PostTzarevitch, on 27 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

 the game engine apparently doesn't support ships operating as a CV and a gunboat. That's why the Tones and the Ises haven't appeared.

 

Do you have a source for that? AFAIK, the Tone hasn't been added cause WG doesn't want to balance it until after CV's are reworked. Not to mention that, IIRC, CV's had controllable secondaries back in beta.

 

View PostTzarevitch, on 27 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

I doubt Shinano will ever appear. It isn't so much a balance issue as I don't think they will ever do a T10 premium.

 

Shinano already has a model, and was already in game at one point. It also wouldn't need to be a tier 10, with its limited capacity, it could be a tier 8 with proper balancing.

 

As for Akagi, I would like to see her in her pre-remodel form with a double flight deck. Gimmick, so to say, would be the ability to launch and recover aircraft simultaneously. It might not have been effective IRL, but in game it can work.


IJN: Yubari, Ishizuchi, Kamikaze, Shinonome, Nagato, Amagi, Shiratsuyu, Akizuki, Shokaku, Atago, Taiho, Zao, Shimakaze
USN: Texas, Arizona, Independence, Mahan, Atlanta, Indianapolis, Baltimore,  Missouri, Montana
KMS: Emden, V-25, Graf Spee, Nurnberg, Scharnhorst,
 Bismarck, Friedrich der Grobe

VMF: Schors, Molotov, Tashkent          RN: Warspite, Belfast, Fiji, Neptune, Minotaur           Pan Asian: Lo Yang          ORP: Blyskawica


JustinOldDude #24 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:41 PM

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I would like to see Hiyo or Junyo at tier 6 or 7 if they did a 2nd IJN line. I think they were interesting ships. Integrating the funnel with the superstructure which is what they did to the Taiho. Just a thought

TheHunter2_EAD #25 Posted 11 March 2017 - 01:51 PM

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I like to see Akagi 1942 or Kaga 1942 hull

 

Kaga 1942

Displacement standard, t

38200

Displacement full, t

43650

Length, m

218.0 pp 240.3 wl 247.7 oa 248.6 fd

Breadth, m

32.5

Draught, m

9.48

No of shafts

4

Machinery

Kampon geared steam turbines, 12 Kampon boilers

Power, h. p.

127400

Max speed, kts

28.3

Fuel, t

oil 5300

Endurance, nm(kts) 10000(16)

Armour, mm

belt: 152, main deck: 55 - 32, casemates: 25 - 19

Armament

10 x 1 - 200/50 3-shiki, 8 x 2 - 127/40 89-shiki, 90 aircraft (A2N fighters, D1A diving bombers, B2M, B3Y torpedo bombers)

Complement

2016

Aircraft facilities after modernization (fd - 7,533m², ha - ~7,130m² / ~35,660m³): Flight deck: 248.6x30.3m. Upper and medium hangars, each: ~153x22x5m, small lower hangar: ~20x20x?m. Lifts: fore (11.5x12.0m), medium (10.7x15.9m) and aft (12.8x9.9m). Aircraft fuel stowage: ?.

Ship protection after modernization: Main 152mm belt closed about 2/3 of hull length and was inclined at 14° from vertical. Flat main (lower hangar) 79-57mm (51-32mm armour on 28-25mm plating) deck connected with its upper edge but had additional 102mm slopes connected with lower edge of main belt. There was 76-16mm longitudinal anti-torpedo bulkhead. Depth of underwater protection was increased at 1.5m by bulges.

Modernizations: 1938: + 11 x 2 - 25/60 96-shiki

1941: + 4 x 2 - 25/60 96-shiki

Naval service: During battle at Midway in the afternoon 4/6/1942 American carrier aircraft (Hornet, Yorktown and Enterprise air groups) achieved four hits and five near misses of 454kg bombs. Extensive breaking downs and fires on flight and hangar decks forced the crew soon abandon the ship. Later 9 hours after attack she was as result of explosion of aviation petrol tanks.

 

Akagi 1942

Displacement standard, t

36500

Displacement full, t

42750

Length, m

235.0 pp 250.4 wl 260.7 oa

Breadth, m

31.3

Draught, m

8.71

No of shafts

4

Machinery

Gihon geared steam turbines, 19 Kampon boilers

Power, h. p.

133000

Max speed, kts
 

31.2

Fuel, t

oil 6000

Endurance, nm(kts) 8200(16)

Armour, mm

belt: 152, main deck: 57 - 32, casemates: 25 - 19

Armament

6 x 1 - 200/50 3-shiki, 6 x 2 - 120/45 10-shiki, 14 x 2 - 25/60 96-shiki, 91 aircraft (A4N, A5M fighters, D1A diving bombers, B4Y, B5N torpedo bombers)

Complement

2000

Aircraft facilities after modernization (fd - 7,601m², ha - ~ 6,120m² / ~ 30,600m³): Flight deck: 249.2x30.5m. Upper and medium hangars, each: ~130x22x5m, small lower hangar: ~20x20x?m. Lifts: fore (11.8x16.0m), medium (11.8x13.0m) and aft (12.8x8.4m). Aircraft fuel stowage: ?.

Ship protection after modernization: Main 152mm belt closed about 2/3 of hull length and was inclined at 14° from vertical. Flat main (lower hangar) 79-57mm (51-32mm armour on 28-25mm plating) deck connected with its upper edge but had additional 102mm slopes connected with lower edge of main belt. There was 76-16mm longitudinal anti-torpedo bulkhead. Depth of underwater protection was increased at 1.2m by bulges.

Modernizations: None.

Naval service: During battle at Midway in the afternoon 4/6/1942 American carrier aircraft (Enterprise, Hornet and Yorktown air groups) achieved two air bomb hits into Akagi. 454kg bomb has got to the medium elevator and has blown up on a hangar deck, another, 227kg, bomb has blown up on aft part of flight deck. It was not possible to take under control extensive fire covered aircrafts. Later 9 hours the ship have been abandoned by crew and at morning 5/6/1942 burnt out wreck was sunk by torpedoes from destroyers Arashi and Nowaki.


Edited by TheHunter2_EAD, 11 March 2017 - 01:51 PM.

I run all CV Tiers:
IJN: all
USN: all
Kriegsmarine​: still in process of negotiate for it come to game
​U.S.S.R.: ask Xero_Snake how it going on it
​HMS: still in process
France: Béarn ​need to negotiate​
​Italian:  Aquila need to negotiate
​Except for few other ship class for a small fleet.
 




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