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Gohibniu #41 Posted 02 February 2017 - 11:56 AM

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View Postlukie116, on 14 January 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

We don't need more damn cruisers. I want more battleships.

Haha yes!



Phoenix_jz #42 Posted 03 February 2017 - 12:59 AM

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View PostGohibniu, on 02 February 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

Haha yes!

 

More BBs in the queue would be bad lol

 

Plus, we're getting two new BB lines this year anyways, British and French.


 

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peacemaker1911 #43 Posted 25 February 2017 - 08:43 AM

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View PostNTRabbit, on 21 January 2017 - 01:21 AM, said:

 

French battleships are relatively straightforward actually - Courbet at 3, because the first Dreadnought is by definition always used as the tier 3 and then made terrible with arbitrary stats, Bretagne 4, Normandie 5, Lyon 6, the 37,000t fast battleship type A (1927) design at 7, and Richlieu at 8. After that it's either C3 'Gascogne' at 9 and Alsace type 3 at 10, or Alsace type 3 at 9, and Alsace type 2 at 10 - or my favourite, since the Germans got fake triple turrets on their tier 10 to get 12 16/16.5" guns, the French can get fake quad turrets large enough to hold 16" guns to give Alsace type 2 12x 16" guns as well.

About Gascogne, are u talking about the Richelieu with A-A turret positioning? If so, I'm against that idea. 8 15inch guns at T8 will make her the most UP T9 BB



BrentD15 #44 Posted 27 February 2017 - 01:30 PM

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Well, if we won't include the Gloire and the Edgar Quinet, we have a few captured German and Austro-Hungarian cruisers to choose from, like the Thionville.

BrentD15 #45 Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:24 PM

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First sneak peek at the French cruiser line: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/allons-y/

Kinda disappointed, too.

Where's the Suffren-class? Where's the Duquesne-class?

Why isn't Algerie at Tier VIII?

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View PostBrentD15, on 06 March 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

First sneak peek at the French cruiser line: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/allons-y/

Kinda disappointed, too.

Where's the Suffren-class? Where's the Duquesne-class?

Why isn't Algerie at Tier VIII?

:izmena:

 

Yup it's official " French Cruisers Coming Soon!"

Phoenix_jz #47 Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:58 PM

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Woot!

Duquesne was never going to make it, not with her armor... The k my way possible would be as some sort of premium-gimmick cruiser that lacks a citadel.

Suffren I was expecting at tier VII, and Algérie at tier VIII, so that's certainly intresting... I definitely like the placement of the Light Cruisers though.

 

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Phoenix_jz #48 Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:59 PM

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Algérie at tier VII... Come to think of it, won't she totally walk all over Yorck? I can't think of a single advantage Yorck has over Algérie, except for the high alpha on her AP...

 

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View PostPhoenix_jz, on 06 March 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Algérie at tier VII... Come to think of it, won't she totally walk all over Yorck? I can't think of a single advantage Yorck has over Algérie, except for the high alpha on her AP...

 

Algérie will have similar same rate of fire to Yorck. 134kg AP shells (not quite Baltimore's 152kg super-heavy, but not that far off given 2 whole tiers are separating them) with 820m/s MV. Significantly better armor in all respects (110mm belt, 70mm fore and aft citadel bulkheads, 22m upper deck on top of 80mm main deck). So aside from AP alpha, Yorck's advantages only besides AP alpha will be...she's got more torps and is a knot faster.

 

Well maybe Algérie will have worse concealment than Yorck. She does have a pretty tall conning tower. Though with the FCS being on top of the conning tower she should also have good firing range.



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Time to drive a french boat :D

 


 

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View PostBrentD15, on 06 March 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

First sneak peek at the French cruiser line: https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/allons-y/

Kinda disappointed, too.

Where's the Suffren-class? Where's the Duquesne-class?

Why isn't Algerie at Tier VIII?

:izmena:

 

View PostPhoenix_jz, on 06 March 2017 - 08:58 AM, said:

Woot!

Duquesne was never going to make it, not with her armor... The k my way possible would be as some sort of premium-gimmick cruiser that lacks a citadel.

Suffren I was expecting at tier VII, and Algérie at tier VIII, so that's certainly intresting... I definitely like the placement of the Light Cruisers though.

 

I agree with Phoenix. The Duquesne has 30 mm deck armor, 30 mm turret armor and 30 mm citadel armor. The absolute lowest tier I could see putting 203 mm guns would be T4. The Duquesne would more than likely be T5+. So I compared it to the T4 cruisers all of which are considered instadeletable if they show a broadside. The Duguesne would have triple the deck armor (10ish mm armor), but roughly equal to half the turret armor of any other T4 cruiser (25-76 mm armor). The citadel armor on the other hand would be half or less than any other T4 cruiser (60-76 mm armor).

 

Since HE penetration is 1/6 the gun caliber, then 183 mm guns can penetrate the citadel with HE. For a gun with the IFHE skill, 138 mm guns can pen the citadel with HE. German HE secondaries 122 mm or larger can pen the 30 mm citadel and with IFHE German secondaries larger than 92 mm can pen the citadel with HE.

 

So while at long range, the deck armor will help when bow on, showing your side would be very bad for your Duquesne cruiser's health. 

 



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View PostPhoenix_jz, on 06 March 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Algérie at tier VII... Come to think of it, won't she totally walk all over Yorck? I can't think of a single advantage Yorck has over Algérie, except for the high alpha on her AP...

 

Algerie to 7 is massive power creep.  She should walk all over Pensacola and Indianapolis too.


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View Postcrzyhawk, on 06 March 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

 

Algerie to 7 is massive power creep.  She should walk all over Pensacola and Indianapolis too.

 

Pepsi at least has 10x 203mm guns and thanks to her recent buff some good concealment. Algerie has a pretty tall conning tower that could make for bad-ish concealment.





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