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GFischer #1 Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM

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Well, i was theorycrafting about this post http://forum.worldof...he-penetration/ testing if the value of the 203mm is 33,83mm or 40.6mm. Then in the training room did some testing:

 

The first subject'll be a Khabarovsk with their OP 50mm side plates:

 

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Joking aside the test cotinues...

 

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No damage to the 50mm plate

 

 

Now i tried against a 40mm plate on the Hindy, if the caliber is 203/5 it should be able to pen the plate:wrNoFdP.jpg08SwPPT.jpg

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As you can see, the shells didn't pen on the 40mm plate, so the 203mm pen is the same as other nations.

 

 

 

 

Next, what could we do with IFHE against BBs? Lets see: 

 

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The only thing i could say is poor poor Monty, that burger will be roasted.:trollface:

 

Tomorrow i'd plan to do more testing with the skill.


Edited by GFischer, 10 January 2017 - 07:59 PM.


ValkyrWarframe #2 Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:56 PM

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Cause Khabarovsk has 50mm of armor that shatters all HE except from battleships.

 

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P.S. Not sure if the German HE penetration was buffed for cruisers like it was for battleships.


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shell diameter / 6 = HE penetration

 

does not count for german BBs


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View PostValkyrWarframe, on 10 January 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

P.S. Not sure if the German HE penetration was buffed for cruisers like it was for battleships.

It's not.


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Fixed the wrong imgur images


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View PostTenguBlade, on 10 January 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

It's not.

 

Then...how.  Hipper's guns penetrate 32.48mm of armor.  I guess the HE blast wave probably hit a different armor section.

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Time for HE penetration values to be listed in the port stats, especially since they will be an important consideration for one of the new captain skills.

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View PostDoomStomper, on 10 January 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

Time for HE penetration values to be listed in the port stats, especially since they will be an important consideration for one of the new captain skills.

 

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Hmm, does Graf Spee's guns get the BB penetration bonus, or is it treated as a standard cruiser?  I would think the 283mm/L52 guns would get it, but eh...WG.

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View PostIridium81, on 10 January 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

Hmm, does Graf Spee's guns get the BB penetration bonus, or is it treated as a standard cruiser?  I would think the 283mm/L52 guns would get it, but eh...WG.

 

Maybe since the guns are the same as the Scharnhorst they retained the pen buff


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View PostGFischer, on 10 January 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

 

Maybe since the guns are the same as the Scharnhorst they retained the pen buff

 

They're actually a different model, so I'm thinking it could go either way.  Scharnhorst uses a 283mm/L54.5 with shells that are roughly 100lbs heavier than Graf Spee's.

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I don't know what German HE pen is... But just by playing Prinz about 70 games... I've came to the conclusion it has the worst 203 mm HE in T8. Shatters almost as much as my MK. There is no way fire chance is 15% either. I buffed it with flags and skill for 20% and my amount of fires was about half of what I get from Atago. I respect out of DE and took the flags off. Was just a waste.

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View PostMorbidGamer, on 10 January 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

I don't know what German HE pen is... But just by playing Prinz about 70 games... I've came to the conclusion it has the worst 203 mm HE in T8. Shatters almost as much as my MK. There is no way fire chance is 15% either. I buffed it with flags and skill for 20% and my amount of fires was about half of what I get from Atago. I respect out of DE and took the flags off. Was just a waste.

 

And that is why you use AP in KM cruisers. To be perfectly honest, I almost never use the HE in my PE. AP works fine even against DDs.


 





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