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ValkyrWarframe #21 Posted 21 March 2017 - 03:30 PM

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View PostLightning_Lad64, on 20 March 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

Interesting write up. I'm halfway through the Donskoi grind. I don't see too many Moskva's in game, whereas I see lots of Des Moines, Minotaur's, and Hindy's and a sprinkling of Zao's. There must be a reason...

 

Most people play Russian cruisers like medium-range fighters, not long-range snipers as they should be.

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theanhtb #22 Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:27 PM

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When you compare Moskva and Hindy, you can clearly see the favoritism for Russian ship :fishpalm:

So much for German's "superior AP" meta.



Lightning_Lad64 #23 Posted 26 March 2017 - 10:57 PM

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ValkyrWarframe #24 Posted 02 April 2017 - 09:59 PM

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View Posttheanhtb, on 24 March 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

When you compare Moskva and Hindy, you can clearly see the favoritism for Russian ship :fishpalm:

So much for German's "superior AP" meta.

 

German AP does have its advantages.  For one, it has a steeper arc which allows for better penetration angles.  Sure Russian AP blows through a crap ton more armor, but that doesn't matter if it bounces when the target is angled like 10 degrees.

 

Another thing, Moskva's AP is so powerful sometimes it will blow straight through a citadel without exploding.  Yep, those shells overpenetrate citadels because they move so fast.


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View Posttheanhtb, on 24 March 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

When you compare Moskva and Hindy, you can clearly see the favoritism for Russian ship :fishpalm:

So much for German's "superior AP" meta.

Germans never had outright-superior AP.  The USN's better pen angles mean they can damage things more reliably with their AP - which is far more useful than doing 20% extra damage one of those few times you find something perfectly-broadside in a German cruiser.


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Bill_Halsey #26 Posted 15 April 2017 - 08:48 PM

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    Helping destroyers cap…
    • Stay within 12 km of the cap.
    • Shoot enemy destroyers, you can hit them with your high velocity.
    • If they smoke, radar them.
    • Once again, bait fire from the enemy so the destroyers can cap unimpeded.

     

     

Doesn't seem to work too well in 6.4 Be within 12 km of a cap in support of dd's and everyone will focus fire on you. You're better off acting as a support battleship.

 

 



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View PostValkyrWarframe, on 28 December 2016 - 10:21 PM, said:

Moskva is a rapid-fire support battleship to me. 

 

That sums her up perfectly. +1 for a fine guide for this oft-maligned ship. No other ship can make the enemy BB experience a burning hell at long range--22.6 km to be exact. The caveat being you have to be a good shot.

 

Here's a recent battle from a few days ago:

 

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A toast--to our ships at sea !
 

 

 

 


ValkyrWarframe #28 Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:06 AM

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View PostBill_Halsey, on 15 April 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

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Doesn't seem to work too well in 6.4 Be within 12 km of a cap in support of dd's and everyone will focus fire on you. You're better off acting as a support battleship.

 

 

 

Seems to work for me all the time, just gotta have some other battleships helping.

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